tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6983458457910186612024-03-13T14:06:57.274-07:00EcologyEcologyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10906157794043339544noreply@blogger.comBlogger3216125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-698345845791018661.post-54505804709041281222012-09-23T08:22:00.001-07:002012-09-23T08:22:32.767-07:00Re: [vernalpool] diamondback terrapin (from late June)<span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>And now for the rest of the story:<br> <br> Nice article in the Sunday edition of the regional Standard Times <br> featuring Don Lewis (the turtle guy) and the eggs saved by Mike Maurer <br> (the salamander guy) - seems like fodder for a new comics <br> series....(we'll need Spring Peeper boy wonder, and the amazing fairy <br> shrimp woman....)<br> <br> <a href="http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120923/LIFE/209230302">http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120923/LIFE/209230302</a> <br> <br> Seems as though three of the babies made it out...Way to go Mike!<br> <br> On 6/26/12 8:54 PM, <a href="mailto:Treeswallow5%40aol.com">Treeswallow5@aol.com</a> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> > Thanks alot....haven't met a turtle I don't like or won't stop for!!!!!<br> ><br> > Mike<br> ><br> > Mike Maurer<br> > Marion, MA<br> ><br> > "The time to save a species is while it is still common" Rosalie Edge, <br> > Founder of Hawk Mountain Sanctuary<br> ><br> > -----Original Message-----<br> > From: PHILLIP BONN <<a href="mailto:philbo5678%40verizon.net">philbo5678@verizon.net</a> <br> > <mailto:philbo5678%40verizon.net>><br> > To: vernalpool <<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>><br> > Sent: Tue, Jun 26, 2012 8:48 pm<br> > Subject: RE: [vernalpool] diamondback terrapin<br> ><br> > Great job!<br> ><br> > From: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com> <br> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>] On<br> > Behalf Of <a href="mailto:Treeswallow5%40aol.com">Treeswallow5@aol.com</a> <mailto:Treeswallow5%40aol.com><br> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:46 PM<br> > To: <a href="mailto:Bio-mass%40yahoogroups.com">Bio-mass@yahoogroups.com</a> <mailto:Bio-mass%40yahoogroups.com>; <br> > <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > Subject: [vernalpool] diamondback terrapin<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Today around 2 PM on the Wareham/Marion town line, as I was crossing the<br> > Weweantic River, I saw a diamondback terrapin trying to cross the four<br> > lanes.....I pulled a Jason Statham "Transporter" -type U-turn immediately<br> > and went back, parked in the middle lane with flashers going (it really<br> > wasn't that dramatic, as no cars were coming yet) and snatched her up. But<br> > as I carried her back to the car, her head was tucked in, blood dripped<br> > down, and the back legs dangled.<br> ><br> > Damn!! One car too late!!...<br> ><br> > I place her on the mat under my feet and sped off to the home of a <br> > couple of<br> > turtle experts who just happen to live in Marion. Susan Weiber Nourse and<br> > Don Lewis... They have been monitoring and researching these terrapins in<br> > Southeastern MA for 20 years or more. Also volunteering out on the Cape at<br> > Wellfleet Bay.<br> ><br> > My immediate thoughts were that if she was going to die, at least <br> > maybe they<br> > could save some eggs (why else would she be on land?) and also see if she<br> > was one their marked individuals.<br> ><br> > I arrived at the their home...ran to the door....explained the <br> > situation (I<br> > had already brought another dead female there last year from the same<br> > spot!)...we went back to the car and as I was handing her over to <br> > Susan, she<br> > emitted an egg!!! Susan asked me to check the car, and I found another egg<br> > on the mat!!!! As we examined her and discussed the possibility of her<br> > surviving these injuries, she deposited two more eggs in Susan's hand!!!!<br> > Holy Crap!!!!<br> ><br> > As of now (8:00 PM) I do not know her fate, but hopefully at least four of<br> > her offspring will stand a chance of making it.<br> ><br> > Wow...what a day<br> ><br> > Mike<br> ><br> > Mike Maurer<br> > Marion, MA<br> ><br> > "The time to save a species is while it is still common" Rosalie Edge,<br> > Founder of Hawk Mountain Sanctuary<br> ><br> > Today around 2 PM on the Wareham/Marion town line, as I was crossing the<br> > Weweantic River, I saw a diamondback terrapin trying to cross the four<br> > lanes.....I pulled a Jason Statham "Transporter" -type U-turn immediately<br> > and went back, parked in the middle lane with flashers going (it really<br> > wasn't that dramatic, as no cars were coming yet) and snatched her up. But<br> > as I carried her back to the car, her head was tucked in, blood dripped<br> > down, and the back legs dangled.<br> ><br> > Damn!! One car too late!!...<br> ><br> > I place her on the mat under my feet and sped off to the home of a <br> > couple of<br> > turtle experts who just happen to live in Marion. Susan Weiber Nourse and<br> > Don Lewis... They have been monitoring and researching these terrapins in<br> > Southeastern MA for 20 years or more. Also volunteering out on the Cape at<br> > Wellfleet Bay.<br> ><br> > My immediate thoughts were that if she was going to die, at least <br> > maybe they<br> > could save some eggs (why else would she be on land?) and also see if she<br> > was one their marked individuals.<br> ><br> > I arrived at the their home...ran to the door....explained the <br> > situation (I<br> > had already brought another dead female there last year from the same<br> > spot!)...we went back to the car and as I was handing her over to <br> > Susan, she<br> > emitted an egg!!! Susan asked me to check the car, and I found another egg<br> > on the mat!!!! As we examined her and discussed the possibility of her<br> > surviving these injuries, she deposited two more eggs in Susan's hand!!!!<br> > Holy Crap!!!!<br> ><br> > As of now (8:00 PM) I do not know her fate, but hopefully at least four of<br> > her offspring will stand a chance of making it.<br> ><br> > Wow...what a day<br> ><br> > Mike<br> ><br> > Mike Maurer<br> > Marion, MA<br> ><br> > "The time to save a species is while it is still common" Rosalie Edge,<br> > Founder of Hawk Mountain Sanctuary<br> ><br> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> ><br> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> ><br> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> ><br> > <br> <br> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:alaharris@verizon.net?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bvernalpool%5D%20diamondback%20terrapin%20%28from%20late%20June%29" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:vernalpool@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bvernalpool%5D%20diamondback%20terrapin%20%28from%20late%20June%29"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwMnAxMGI1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BG1zZ0lkAzQ2MjIEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ4NDEzNzUw?act=reply&messageNum=4622">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYjZyM3VmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODQxMzc1MA--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/message/4559;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MzRucWc1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BG1zZ0lkAzQ2MjIEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ4NDEzNzUwBHRwY0lkAzQ1NTk-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">20</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbHBjcnFzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODQxMzc1MA--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkajhpcjI0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzQ4NDEzNzUw" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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Ono said: I thank Pussy Riot in standing firmly in their belief for freedom of expression and making all women of the world proud to be women. It's a terrible thing that all three girls have been jailed for not doing anything wrong. They were just standing for freedom of speech. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> The LennonOno Grant for Peace is given every two years to honor John Lennon's dedication to peace and human rights. In the presence of many celebrities, such as Sting and Madonna, Pyotr Verzilov, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova's husband, accepted the award on the group's behalf. He traveled to New York with their four-year-old daughter. Verzilov said: It's an incredible honor to receive this award from Yoko Ono. It's incredible to see the people around the world go out and voice their support.<br> <br> While in New York, Verzilov also met with Burmese hero Aung San Suu Kyi, who said: Pussy Riot heroines should be released as soon as possible. I don't see why people shouldn't sing whatever it is that they want to sing. There's nothing wrong with singing. I think the only reason why people should not sing is if what they are saying is deliberately insulting, or they sing terribly. That would be the best reason for not singing at all.<br> <br> Heroin sniffers sniff heroines! Cock Riot and Pussy Riot lock horns! Putin, Kirill, and misogynist gay bishops, Cock Riot, managed to imprison for two years the female punk rock group Pussy Riot who held an impromptu concert inside Moscow's golden cathedral in February as part of a protest against the church's political ties. In the song, the Russian heroines prayed to Madonna to chase Putin out of Russia! <br> <br> The heroines of Pussy Riot have received a two-year sentence in a labor camp. It is carried out in the name of Christianity, but the girls did not desecrate any icons and they did not destroy anything. It reminds Navalny of the Inquisition during the Middle Ages. Navalny is standing up for Pussy Riot. He cannot do otherwise. He is concerned with protecting the legal system. The girls have merely committed a minor offense, not a crime. They present no danger to society.<br> <br> The Pussy Riot imprisonment for two years has brought a huge backlash with myriad attacks on churches, crucifixes, icons, and other idols of Christianity all over the world. Anna Gutsol, leader of legendary Femen chainsawed a famous crucifix in Kiev. Many crosses have been chopped down all over the world. There is an Armageddon between women and evil bishops. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Alexei Navalny points out Putin sees the women as a threat, but he has miscalculated. Pussy Riot only became a threat thanks to him. It was initially only a moderately successful performance that received far less of a response than the brilliant action on Red Square. At the time, Pussy Riot called Putin a coward. Then, two of the three activists were arrested shortly before the presidential election.<br> <br> Navalny muses that when men are arrested without any legal basis and for political reasons, it's merely a routine, everyday occurrence in Russia, and hardly anyone has any sympathy. But until recently, everyone deluded themselves into thinking that the Kremlin wouldn't dare put women behind bars. The women from Pussy Riot have become symbols partly because this cliche has been shattered.<br> <br> Navalny states the Kremlin used the performance in the church to take revenge for the appearance on Red Square. Furthermore, it succeeded in taking the conflict between the government and the opposition movement and obscuring it behind the confrontation between the Church and the opposition. The idea was for the patriarch to stand in the crossfire, not Putin. That's why photos also appeared in the press of the patriarch wearing an expensive watch, instead of pictures of Putin's palaces.<br> <br> Medvedev will remain in office. Navalny doesn't know why, but Putin has made a ritual out of humiliating Medvedev. Sometimes Navalny even feel sorry for the prime minister. Putin has reversed all the liberalizing reforms carried out by his predecessor. The fact that the political climate has grown harsher is something Navalny even notices in his daily work as a legal representative of minority shareholders in large, state-owned companies. You can't fight Putin with elections because he controls them. That's why demonstrations are the most effective approach. Unfortunately Russia has sunk to this primitive level.<br> <br> Pussy Riot leader Nadezhda Tolokonnikova regrets nothing. She thinks the trial against Pussy Riot was important, because it showed the true face of czar Putin's system. This system delivered a verdict on itself, by sentencing Pussy Riot to two years in prison although Pussy Riot committed no crime. The criminal trial is Putin's personal revenge, and no one can predict how and when an authoritarian system will apply revenge.<br> <br> Tolokonnikova points out Putin's omnipotence is an illusion. That it's not a limitless thing is just as obvious as the fact that his propaganda machine exaggerates the president's power. Putin is dependent on the West roughly to the same degree that the West has an interest in exaggerating his power. In reality, Putin is small and pitiful. You can see that in his actions both as a person and as a politician. <br> <br> Tolokonnikova notes the trial against Pussy Riot revealed the regime's repressive character. Putin's system is collapsing. It's not suited for the 21st century; it's more like something out of tribal societies and dictatorial regimes of the past. It's incapable of explaining why three political activists have to be thrown into prison just because they used the Cathedral of Christ the Savior as the location for a video performance and uttered a few powerful words against the system.<br> <br> Tolokonnikova muses the overwhelming reaction to what Pussy Riot did was a pleasant surprise. The government's reaction to the Pussy Riot performance was to be expected, since after all we're dealing with an authoritarian system. But Tolokonnikova has been pleased with the support from friends and other like-minded supporters, despite the threat of years in prison that she is facing. Tolokonnikova declares the Pussy Riot fight for its ideas and values will continue. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:basil.venitis@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20PUSSY%20RIOT%20AWARDED%20THE%20LENNONONO%20GRANT%20FOR%20PEACE" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:kitchencabinetforum@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20PUSSY%20RIOT%20AWARDED%20THE%20LENNONONO%20GRANT%20FOR%20PEACE"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwamhndGs2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ4Mzk4MTYz?act=reply&messageNum=669">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZmYzNmZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgzOTgxNjM-" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/message/669;_ylc=X3oDMTMzZzc2cmdhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ4Mzk4MTYzBHRwY0lkAzY2OQ--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">1</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcDJnbWpnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgzOTgxNjI-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaTcxMjF1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODM5ODE2Mw--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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Le Pen favors a ban on religious headgear in stores, on public transport, and on the streets, as well as banning Halal and Kosher foods from schools. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Islam requires all women to dress like zombies! Veil and headscarf are not welcome in Fourth Reich (EU), because they are symbols of women's subservience, repression, incivility, and an increasingly divided Fourth Reich. Veil and headscarf make women invisible, transform women to zombies, invalidate women's participatory rights, flag women as evil temptresses, oppress women with barbarity, are brands of misogynist Islam, and are a security threat.<br> <br> Marine Le Pen has a modern image which appeals to many voters. Marine, the youngest of Jean-Marie's three daughters, took over the leadership of National Front in January 2011. The 43-year-old lawyer is more flexible than her father. She is trying to modernize the party and launch it in a libertarian direction. <br> <br> Le Pen accuses Hollande of being far too lax with political and religious fundamental groups, saying that the country should restore law and order to gain the upper hand. But Hollande hoodwinks that everything that tears people apart, opposes them and divides them is inappropriate and we must apply the rules, the only rules that we know, the rules of the Republic and secularism.<br> <br> Le Pen warns about the might of Fourth Reich. She declares that Frau Merkel and her friends, Van Rompuy and Barroso are in the final stages of creating a European Soviet Union. French are about to lose their status as a free nation. Le Pen calls for the reintroduction of the Franc.<br> <br> Fourth Reich is an illegal confederation that has no voted constitution, a flag no one salutes, an anthem no one sings, a Fuehrer no one can name, a parliament of prostitutes, a capital of huge bureaucracy no one controls, a currency that soon will not exist, rules of fiscal behavior that no member has been penalized for ignoring, a commission which is the Eldorado of corruption, brutal cybercops, and kleptocrats galore! Ode to Joy is the anthem of Fourth Reich. It is based on the final movement of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, and it's used without lyrics. <br> <br> Le Pen also accuses Hollande of stupidity for imposing 75% tax on millionaires! Rich French now wait for Scarlet Pimpernel to save them from the 75% income tax, the financial transactions tax, the huge stupidity of Hollande, the huge regulation, the 23% VAT, kleptocracy, and the cancer of socialism. <br> <br> The League of the Scarlet Pimpernel, a secret libertarian society, rescues French from the daily executions of the Reign of Socialistic Terror. Legendary Scarlet Pimpernel took his nickname from the drawing of a small red flower with which he signs his messages. Scarlet Pimpernel helps corporations move out of eurozone. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Euroskepticism and the defense of French sovereignty remain central to the National Front's program. Marine wants France out of eurozone, and out of NATO. The National Front continues to fight against the subversion of the country at the hands of Muslims. <br> <br> Le Pen supports Terry Jones of Florida, who has established September 11 as the International Burn a Koran Day! Jones declares Koran is a stupid unholy book of satanic verses, the main source of culture clashes, misogyny, polygamy, incivility, and holy wars. Mu-ham-mad is a mu ham gone mad (((:-{><br> <br> National Front is a massive protest party. Marine Le Pen makes herself out to be the defender of freedom, the separation of church and state, and the values of the French republic. Marine Le Pen speaks to all parts of society - not just the frustrated, elderly and poor, but also industrial and service-sector workers. <br> <br> Le Pen fights against the Caliphate, the system of government established in Islam and represents the leader's unity of the Muslim Ummah community. It is an aristocratic theocracy, where the Caliph and other officials are representatives of the people and of Islam and must govern according to Sharia. Now Occident has been hoodwinked to support a global terrorist caliphate by encouraging Islamist rebels! <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Al-Qaeda has as one of its clearly stated goals the re-establishment of the caliphate. Ayman al-Zawahiri seeks to restore the caliphate, which had formally ended in 1924 following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Zawahiri believes that once the caliphate is re-established, Egypt would become a rallying point for the rest of the Islamic world, leading the jihad against Occident.<br> <br> France-Fourth Reich relations have become increasingly similar to the Ballet de<br> la Merlaison, created by Louis XIII of France in the 17th century. In this<br> unique ballet, the king authored the work and played the leading role. All the<br> other roles in the ballet were considered extras, who eagerly danced to the tune<br> of the king. <br> <br> As long as the king was still alive, this ballet was considered to<br> be the work of a genius. Hollande, who loves the Ballet de la Merlaison, asserts<br> France should play the leading role in Fourth Reich. But we all know that<br> France and all countries of Fourth Reich have become colonies of<br> Germany! Well, France is now the leading colony of Germany!<br> <br> Hollande and Merkel are engaged in a waltz-hesitation. It's an endless back and forth that must often seem, to its anxious audience, deliberately designed to confuse. That<br> audience consists of the fifteen other members of the monetary union and, worse<br> still, the teetering financial markets. Hollande and Merkel need to have the courage to measure themselves against the great figures of European politics, such as Charles de Gaulle and Konrad Adenauer. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:basil.venitis@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20HOLLANDE%20AND%20LE%20PEN%20LOCK%20HORNS" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:kitchencabinetforum@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20HOLLANDE%20AND%20LE%20PEN%20LOCK%20HORNS"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwYnA5c2tuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ4MjQ3MTMy?act=reply&messageNum=668">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmY3BrZjM2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgyNDcxMzI-" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/message/668;_ylc=X3oDMTMzc3NnbmxxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ4MjQ3MTMyBHRwY0lkAzY2OA--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">1</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum;_ylc=X3oDMTJmM3ZpODA5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgyNDcxMzI-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZWVqZnBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODI0NzEzMg--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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Lindsey Burke points out the system of teacher evaluation used in many school districts relies heavily on classroom observations. It rarely counts student achievement on state tests as part of a teacher's overall evaluation. This model consists of cursory classroom visits by principals who declare nearly every teacher good, or at least competent, even in failing schools where few if any children meet basic educational standards.<br> <br> Han Han, a high-school dropout born in 1982, is a Chinese professional rally driver, best-selling author, singer, creator of Party magazine, and China's most popular blogger. He has published ten novels to date, and he is also involved in music production. The Han Han story proves that schooling must be abolished. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Burke declares present schooling is an incredibly unfair system for children, who, year after year, are needlessly subjected to ineffective teachers, causing them to lose years of potential learning gains. A good teacher can get 1.5 years of learning growth; a bad teacher gets 0.5 years of learning growth. If you get a few bad teachers in a row, a student's life is altered dramatically.<br> <br> Moreover Burke laments, it's incredibly unfair for teachers. The existing system, effectively blind to teacher performance, compensates teachers based on years in the classroom, not effectiveness. The best teachers aren't noticed; the worst are protected.<br> <br> Dropping out of school is a smart strategy of cutting losses short! Public schools are filled with eager, fresh-faced youngsters, and prisons contain many rough-looking adults with uninviting personalities. They are both kleptocrat-run facilities where individuals are held for a specific number of years without their consent, at the mercy of their custodians. <br> <br> Yet the unions, who claim to represent the interests of both students and teachers, are using Chicago children as political pawns in their quest to fortify the status quo and ensure nothing threatens their entrenched power.<br> <br> For years, kleptocrats have been doing their best to further blur the distinction by giving public-school officials the same powers as the warden of San Quentin. There are many<br> abridgments of freedom and invasions of privacy inflicted on children. Children<br> are looking for a Moses to liberate them from the jails of classes, and lead<br> them to the promised land of real life.<br> <br> The socialistic feature of public schooling that dooms it to fail is that at<br> every level, the system relies on compulsion instead of voluntary consent. The<br> curriculum is politicized to reflect the socialistic cancer of kleptocrats in<br> power. Standards are continually dumbed down to the least common denominator.<br> The brightest children are not permitted to achieve their potential, the<br> special-needs of individual children are neglected, and the mid-level learners<br> become little more than socialistic cogs in a kleptocratic machine. <br> <br> Burke notes the union was offered a 10 percent pay raise over the next four years, continued step increases based not on merit but on time served in the system, more than 500 new art and P.E. teachers hired by the district, and the creation of a hiring pool where any laid-off teacher would have first dibs on any job openings within the district. They rejected that offer. The main sticking points: teacher evaluations, the length of the school day, and what to do about under-performing teachers.<br> <br> Generations of dumbing-down and educational indoctrination have brainwashed hoi<br> polloi. Perhaps citizens will wake up quickly to their peril, perhaps not. They<br> must be taught the value of freedom. Many do not even know what it is, and many<br> don't put a value on it. Where the Founders had the advantage of the spread of<br> Graecoroman ideas, and a population receptive to them, we have the disadvantage<br> of the decline of those ideas, and a population largely indifferent to or<br> ignorant of them. This is quite an obstacle.<br> <br> Burke muses those picketing in the streets in Chicago the teachers, who earn on average, $76,000 per year, and after 30 years in the classroom, receive an annual payment of $77,400 for life, courtesy of the Illinois taxpayer want to continue receiving this compensation. Moreover, they want it without the accountability that is so badly needed. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Schools dumbdown children. It's ridiculous to jail children in schools for<br> sixteen years! No wonder children revolt violently. Homeschooling is the<br> education of children at home. Homeschooling is a legal option in many places<br> for parents to provide their children with a learning environment as an<br> alternative to publicly-provided schools. Parents cite numerous reasons as<br> motivations to home school, including better academic test results, poor public<br> school environment, improved character, and objections to what is taught locally<br> in public school. It is also an alternative for families living in isolated<br> rural locations or living temporarily abroad. Homeschooling is legal in many<br> countries, especially Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and<br> the United States.<br> <br> Burke says that level of compensation, in a district that faces a $1 billion deficit, certainly merits accountability. Teacher evaluations should be based in part on student performance on tests, using a value-added model that takes extraneous factors such as socioeconomic status into account. Those models should be based on growth: Has a teacher imparted a year's worth on learning in a year's time, or better yet, a year-and-a-half's worth of learning in a year's time? Other factors, such as principal and parent evaluations and observations, should also play a part. Burke asserts effective teachers should be well-compensated; ineffective teachers should find another profession.<br> <br> Unschooling is a curriculum-free philosophy of homeschooling. Unschoolers<br> believe that the use of standard curricula and conventional grading methods, as<br> well as other features of traditional schooling, are counterproductive to the<br> goal of maximizing the education of each child. Instead, unschoolers typically<br> allow children to learn through their natural life experiences, including game<br> play, household responsibilities, and social interaction. Exploring activities<br> is often led by the children themselves, facilitated by the adults. Child<br> directed play is a key tenet of the unschooling philosophy.<br> <br> We should abolish schooling, to end the ugly and inhuman business of<br> people-shaping and to allow and help people to shape themselves. Learning is not<br> the product of teaching. Learning is the product of the activity of learners.<br> The teacher gives explanations, not learning. If a child is left to himself, he<br> will think more and better. Be wary of saying or doing anything to a child that<br> you would not do to another adult, whose good opinion and affection you valued.<br> <br> Unschooling is based upon and built around the growth of the child and the<br> success that is an inherent part of a self-actualizing life. <br> The notion of teaching people to become better thinkers is such a basic concept<br> that most people would assume the goal has always been a vital part of<br> educators' tool kits. But the concept is fairly new on the education landscape,<br> and it has yet to accurately address some tricky cognitive terrain. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> LIB THE KIDS<br> By Basil Venitis<br> <br> Children locked in all these classes<br> Dumbing down our kids<br> Boring teachers with glasses<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Kids are looking for a Moses<br> To liberate them from all these freaks<br> To lead them to the promised land of chosen<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Eager fresh-faced youngsters<br> Bored to hell and tired lids<br> Are in classes like gangsters<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Abolish schooling right now<br> Abolish all these stupid grids<br> Fire all these teachers anyhow<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:basil.venitis@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20LIBERATING%20THE%20KIDS%20FROM%20SCHOOLS" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:kitchencabinetforum@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20LIBERATING%20THE%20KIDS%20FROM%20SCHOOLS"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwN3BvamNlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ4MTE2NzIx?act=reply&messageNum=667">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmczV2YzEyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgxMTY3MjE-" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/message/667;_ylc=X3oDMTMzM2RqcjEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ4MTE2NzIxBHRwY0lkAzY2Nw--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">1</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaWsydHNhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDgxMTY3MjE-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlY2hsaGNhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODExNjcyMQ--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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Impunity and immunity are the real cause of all Greek problems. Everything else appears trivial in comparison. Do it right or don't do it at all. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a> <br> <br> Greeks accumulate eggs and yogurt in order to hurl it at all Graecokleptocrats they could find, especially Venizelos of Pasok, who introduced the stupidest law on Earth which states ministers of the Greek government are immune to prosecution! As a result of this infamous law, Graecokleptocrats cannot be prosecuted, even though Graecokleptocrats get myriad bribes. This socialist bulldog has transformed hoi polloi to slumdogs!<br> <br> Charles Dallara asserts Greece should get cheaper rates on its 130 billion euro aid deal and at least two more years to repay them, but better terms could only come after Samaras and Venizelos, Laurel and Hardy of Greek politics, deliver on commitments they have made to fiscal reform.<br> <br> Dallara points out only twenty billion euros are needed. This can easily be realised in part by reducing interest rates on the loans which Fourth Reich and IMF made to Greece on more concessional terms. Responses to the Greek debt crisis placed too much emphasis on short-term austerity and not enough on improving the country's longer-term competitiveness.<br> <br> Dallara does not realize the real problen is not time but political corruption. The cradle of democracy has become the cradle of kleptocracy! Pasok and Nea Democratia mafias must be abolished now, because they have robbed the Greek treasury and the pension funds, received myriad bribes and kickbacks, exchanged sinecures for votes, spread the cancer of socialism, destroyed the Greek economy, robbed the banks at gunpoint, imposed kangaroo justice, persecuted dissident bloggers, established the kleptocratic impunity, framed a ridiculous constitution, enslaved Greece to Fourth Reich, debased the Greek soul, transformed the cradle of democracy to the cradle of kleptocracy, and deteriorated the national character of Greece. <br> <br> Laurel and Hardy want two more years to implement economic reforms tied to the aid package to soften their impact. Graecokleptocrats have a long history of promising reforms and not delivering, and this time is no different. After decades of using public services as political spoils, Graecokleptocrats must also take on the corruption and inefficiency they fostered before they can implement the reforms that creditors demand before releasing further funds. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Every time Graecokleptocrats have to receive a tranche of the money we're going to have the same problem. If they keep missing targets, sooner or later they won't get the money. There is a chance this is just delaying the inevitable. Graecokleptocrats have repeatedly voted in measures and privatizations that have never materialized. It is proving a Herculean task.<br> <br> Portugal, which does not have a political corruption problem, got more time to meet fiscal targets as depression saps Lisbon's ability to deliver. Under the revised targets, Portugal has until 2014 to bring its budget deficit down to the EU limit of 3 percent. Previously, the 78 billion euro package required a deficit of 3 percent in 2013.<br> <br> Greek debt differs from that of Portugal, because it's not due to spending, but robbing! Graecokleptocrats got huge kickbacks from overpriced purchases of public equipment and contracts and by churning the state insurance funds. If this is not robbing, what is it? When politicians of Portugal were trying to do things for their citizens, Graecokleptocrats were trying to fatten their secret offshore accounts, protected by parliamentary immunity. Graecokleptocrats rob Peter not to give Paul, but to themselves! <br> <br> That's why the Greek workers are on strike. They resent paying the huge Greek debt created by Graecokleptocrats. It's not fair to tax and reduce the salaries and benefits of workers to make up for the money stolen by Graecokleptocrats. The fairest action would be for Graecokleptocrats to return the stolen money back to the Greek treasury. Many Graecokleptocrats live like princes of Saudi Arabia! Enough is enough, bring the money back! <br> <br> Troika is evaluating the progress of Laurel and Hardy on agreed targets before releasing the next, 32 billion euro tranche from the giant aid package. Troika, dressed for funeral, is mad as hell, and it cannot take it from piggish Graecokleptocrats anymore. Troika walks grim-faced into its meetings with piggish Graecokleptocrats wearing funeral clothes! Troika is a doctor, who is looking over the tests of Graecokleptocrats, shaking its head, and Graecokleptocrats wondering if they are going to live or die.<br> <br> Troika rushes in and out of ministers' offices with heads down, clutching files and avoiding reporters. Troika reviews a track record of two years of broken promises to international lenders, who have pledged a quarter of a trillion euros to pull Greece back from the brink of bankruptcy.<br> <br> The coalition government of Samaras and Venizelos, Laurel and Hardy of Greek politics, is racing against the clock to come up with cuts and reforms. Laurel and Hardy have fallen quite badly behind, due to the election campaign and they are trying very hard to put the train back on track. Troika's main task is to see how Laurel and Hardy could get restarted.<br> <br> Troika is angry and fed up. Greece would not get any money unless it showed some progress. Among a long list of failures, Laurel and Hardy have not completed any substantial privatizations and is behind on tax reform, restructuring the public sector and properly opening up markets and professions. <br> <br> Laurel and Hardy blame their failure on a deeper than expected recession and want two more years to catch up. Troika says huge political corruption and half-hearted reforms are to blame for holding the economy back. The lenders are demanding abolition of Graecokleptocracy and Trojan Horses. Troika has made it clear to Laurel and Hardy that they should forget about renegotiating the 130 billion euro bailout plan; instead, they should prove their credibility first.<br> <br> Greece is the queen of political corruption in Occident. The freakish government of Greece stole my life! The impunity of the 300 MPs of the Grand Brothel of Democracy on Syntagma Square is the most freakish thing on Earth. Even though Graecokleptocrats loot many billion euros in bribes and churning, Graecokleptocrats cannot go to jail! Graecokleptocrats are protected by the parliamentary immunity, and nobody can touch them, no matter what. Moreover, they have the nerve to jail dissident bloggers. It's a long way from the 300 Spartans of Leonidas! Allons enfants de la Grece! <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> There are no words to describe the stupidity, corruption, and freak of Pasok, the most infamous political mafia on Earth! Pasok mafiosi are the freaks that initiated the impunity of ministers of the Greek government, the immunity of MPs, the Siemens scandal, the military bribes, myriad kickbacks, and the fiasco of October 18, 2010, which destroyed my life. Pasok freaks stole my life. Pasok declared a war against me, but the whole world is watching this Armageddon.<br> <br> The Greek government is the #1 enemy of the Greek people! Graecokleptocrats do myriad stupid things. The freakish Pasok government of Greece in 2010 was so stupid that it hoodwinked all media that I conspired to trigger a war between Greece and Turkey and blame Mariliza Xenogiannakopoulou, Alternate Minister of Foreign Affairs of Greece, for it! Accusing dissident bloggers of treason, Graecokleptocrats have manufactured a blood libel in cyberspace, which in turn incites hatred and violence. The government of Greece gave my head on plate to Erdogan. Brutal Graecokleptocrats have destroyed my life. My life is stolen. Now I demand my life back! <br> <br> Laurel and Hardy must come up with a dozen billion euros of extra cuts for the next two years to get the money, and they have fallen behind in reforms. Dumping euros on Greece is ridiculous. It's unfair to squander hard-earned German euros, and it's unfair for Greeks to be addicted to German handouts. Nobody wins in dumping, which increases sinecures, laziness, profligacy, diseconomy, political corruption, and bad attitude. The freakish government of Greece stole my life! <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Lagarde now says lenders may agree to some sort of extension. But Maria Fekter asserts Laurel and Hardy would get a few weeks more time to meet terms of Greece's international rescue. The idea of having a year or two is dead and no extra money is on the table.<br> <br> Lagarde has made it absolutely clear she does not trust Graecokleptocrats, because they never apply what they vote in the Grand Brothel of Democracy on Syntagma Square! All Europeans condemn Graecokleptocrats for creating hundred state agencies and hiring many thousands of public employees, even though they promised Troika to close down all agencies and fire many public employees. <br> <br> Some executives at state enterprises have annual salaries of 300,000 euros! Greeks wonder why the offshore accounts of rich ministers have not been traced and why the names of hundred Graecokleptocrats who took many billions of euros in bribes have not been published.<br> <br> Michael Fuchs says: Even if the glass is half full, that won't be sufficient for a new aid package. Germany cannot and will not agree to that. We long ago reached the point where the Greeks must show they are capable of delivering a shift. A policy of the last, last, last chance won't work anymore and must come to an end.<br> <br> Fuchs points out Germany had reached its limit with Greece and would not hesitate to veto more aid if lawmakers were convinced it was not fulfilling the conditions of its bailout. Were that to happen, grexit would be inevitable. Greece could remain a member of the European Union after exit and receive a form of Marshall Plan to help it as it returns to its own currency.<br> <br> Alexander Dobrindt says: With Greece we have reached the end of the road. There must not be any further aid. A country which does not have the will to fulfill the conditions, or is not able to do so, must get a chance outside the euro. Greece should start to pay half of its civil service wages, pensions and other expenditures in drachmas now. A soft return to the old currency is better for Greece than a drastic move. Having the drachma as a parallel currency would allow the chance for economic growth to develop. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a> <br> <br> Dallara welcomes the ECB's stupid commitment this month to launch a potentially unlimited bond-buying program to lower the borrowing costs of PIGS in a bid to end the debt crisis, but it is at risk of failure. 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For years, kleptocrats have been doing their best to further blur the distinction by giving public-school officials the same powers as the warden of San Quentin. There are many<br> abridgments of freedom and invasions of privacy inflicted on children. Children<br> are looking for a Moses to liberate them from the jails of classes, and lead<br> them to the promised land of real life.<br> <br> Mayor Emanuel calls the strike illegal and he will go to court to seek an injunction to block the labor action. The socialistic feature of public schooling that dooms it to fail is that at<br> every level, the system relies on compulsion instead of voluntary consent. The<br> curriculum is politicized to reflect the socialistic cancer of kleptocrats in<br> power. <br> <br> Standards are continually dumbed down to the least common denominator.<br> The brightest children are not permitted to achieve their potential, the<br> special-needs of individual children are neglected, and the mid-level learners<br> become little more than socialistic cogs in a kleptocratic machine. <br> <br> Teachers revolted last week against sweeping education reforms sought by Emanuel, especially evaluating teachers based on the standardized test scores of their students. Generations of dumbing-down and educational indoctrination have brainwashed hoi<br> polloi. Perhaps citizens will wake up quickly to their peril, perhaps not. They<br> must be taught the value of freedom. Many do not even know what it is, and many<br> don't put a value on it. <br> <br> Where the Founders had the advantage of the spread of<br> Graecoroman ideas, and a population receptive to them, we have the disadvantage<br> of the decline of those ideas, and a population largely indifferent to or<br> ignorant of them. This is quite an obstacle.<br> <br> School Board President David Vitale says: We are extremely disappointed that after 10 months of discussion reaching an honest and fair compromise that the union decided to continue their strike of choice and keep our children out of the classroom.<br> <br> The Chicago strike has shone a bright light on a fierce national debate over how to reform failing inner-city schools. The union believes that more money and resources should be given to neighborhood public schools to help them improve. Schools dumbdown children. It's ridiculous to jail children in schools for<br> sixteen years! No wonder children revolt violently. <br> <br> Homeschooling is the<br> education of children at home. Homeschooling is a legal option in many places<br> for parents to provide their children with a learning environment as an<br> alternative to publicly-provided schools. <br> <br> Parents cite numerous reasons as<br> motivations to home school, including better academic test results, poor public<br> school environment, improved character, and objections to what is taught locally<br> in public school. It is also an alternative for families living in isolated<br> rural locations or living temporarily abroad. Homeschooling is legal in many<br> countries, especially Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and<br> the United States.<br> <br> Emanuel and a legion of financiers and philanthropists believe that failing schools should be closed and reopened with new staff to give the students the best chance of improving. Average per-student spending in American public schools is $13,000 per year.<br> <br> Han Han, a high-school dropout born in 1982, is a Chinese professional rally driver, best-selling author, singer, creator of Party magazine, and China's most popular blogger. He has published ten novels to date, and he is also involved in music production. The Han Han story proves that schooling must be abolished. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Dropping out of school is a smart strategy of cutting losses short! Public schools are filled with eager, fresh-faced youngsters, and prisons contain many rough-looking adults with uninviting personalities. They are both kleptocrat-run facilities where individuals are held for a specific number of years without their consent, at the mercy of their custodians. <br> <br> Unschooling is a curriculum-free philosophy of homeschooling. Unschoolers<br> believe that the use of standard curricula and conventional grading methods, as<br> well as other features of traditional schooling, are counterproductive to the<br> goal of maximizing the education of each child. Instead, unschoolers typically<br> allow children to learn through their natural life experiences, including game<br> play, household responsibilities, and social interaction. Exploring activities<br> is often led by the children themselves, facilitated by the adults. Child<br> directed play is a key tenet of the unschooling philosophy.<br> <br> We should abolish schooling, to end the ugly and inhuman business of<br> people-shaping and to allow and help people to shape themselves. Learning is not<br> the product of teaching. Learning is the product of the activity of learners.<br> The teacher gives explanations, not learning. If a child is left to himself, he<br> will think more and better. Be wary of saying or doing anything to a child that<br> you would not do to another adult, whose good opinion and affection you valued.<br> <br> Unschooling is based upon and built around the growth of the child and the<br> success that is an inherent part of a self-actualizing life. <br> The notion of teaching people to become better thinkers is such a basic concept<br> that most people would assume the goal has always been a vital part of<br> educators' tool kits. But the concept is fairly new on the education landscape,<br> and it has yet to accurately address some tricky cognitive terrain.<br> <br> LIB THE KIDS<br> By Basil Venitis<br> <br> Children locked in all these classes<br> Dumbing down our kids<br> Boring teachers with glasses<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Kids are looking for a Moses<br> To liberate them from all these freaks<br> To lead them to the promised land of chosen<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Eager fresh-faced youngsters<br> Bored to hell and tired lids<br> Are in classes like gangsters<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> Abolish schooling right now<br> Abolish all these stupid grids<br> Fire all these teachers anyhow<br> Unschool now and lib the kids.<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:basil.venitis@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20DROPPING%20OUT%20OF%20SCHOOL%20IS%20A%20SMART%20STRATEGY%21" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:kitchencabinetforum@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20DROPPING%20OUT%20OF%20SCHOOL%20IS%20A%20SMART%20STRATEGY%21"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwa2N2aHNnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ3ODYwOTQz?act=reply&messageNum=665">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbmIwY2w1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc4NjA5NDM-" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/message/665;_ylc=X3oDMTMzNjlmczR0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARtc2dJZAM2NjUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ3ODYwOTQzBHRwY0lkAzY2NQ--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">1</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> <li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnMTM4M3YwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMzQ3ODYwOTQz?o=6" style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitchencabinetforum;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYm85MnNuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc4NjA5NDM-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcGVydTJpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjIwODE0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTQwNTM2OARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0Nzg2MDk0Mw--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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I'd also like to see it first. <G><br> Thanks,<br> Teresa in WV<br> <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: SolaceFarm <br> To: <a href="mailto:Homesteadingfamily%40yahoogroups.com">Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:38 AM<br> Subject: [Homesteadingfamily] LEARN TO SPIN KIT<br> <br> Basic Turkish Drop Spindle Kit SPECIAL<br> <br> Normally $29.95 NOW $19.95<br> <br> Take Advantage of this September Special and SAVE $10!<br> <br> Turkish Drop spindle are my favorite, especially for beginning spinners<br> as they are easy to use and seem to spin forever. These Spindles are<br> made in the US out of Alder and weigh approximately 2 ounces.<br> <br> This kit includes:<br> <br> *The Turkish Spindle<br> <br> *2 ounces of White Finnsheep Roving to get you started<br> <br> *An instruction pamphlet to give you step by step instructions<br> <br> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> <br> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:jrward3@citynet.net?subject=Re%3A%20%5BHomesteadingfamily%5D%20LEARN%20TO%20SPIN%20KIT" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BHomesteadingfamily%5D%20LEARN%20TO%20SPIN%20KIT"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homesteadingfamily/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJydTliOGZ1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjU2Nzg0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MTY4NwRtc2dJZAMxMjcwMQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3NDk3NzE-?act=reply&messageNum=12701">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homesteadingfamily/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaXZqNmduBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjU2Nzg0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MTY4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3NDk3NzE-" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homesteadingfamily/message/12700;_ylc=X3oDMTM3aXZnM2NvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjU2Nzg0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MTY4NwRtc2dJZAMxMjcwMQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3NDk3NzEEdHBjSWQDMTI3MDA-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">2</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homesteadingfamily;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdDI1OWRxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjU2Nzg0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MTY4NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDc3NDk3NzE-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYWN1NHJnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjU2Nzg0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA0MTY4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0Nzc0OTc3MQ--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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The pope said: Lebanon is called, now more than ever, to be an example, to testify with courage, in season and out of season, wherever you find yourselves, that God wants peace, that God entrusts peace to us. If we want peace, let us defend life. This approach leads us to reject not only war and terrorism, but every assault on innocent human life. Having broken the first commandment, love of God, it goes on to distort the second, love of neighbor. Love of neighbor disappears, yielding to falsehood, envy, hatred and death. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Meme is a cultural invention that passes from one mind to another and thrives, or declines, like a gene. Memetics explores the concepts and transmission of memes in a similar fashion to genetics. A meme's success is due to its contribution to the effectiveness of its host. Memeplex, like the genetic code, is a set of ideas that reinforce each other. Religion is a memeplex. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Protesters against the Innocence of Muslims film hurled stones at security forces, chanting We don't want the pope and No more insults to Islam. Benedict called for an end to all arms supplies to Syria, where the Christian minority fears reprisals if Islamists come to power. Benedict described the Arab Spring movement as a cry for freedom that was a positive development as long as it ensured tolerance for all religions.<br> <br> Religions, scams, and hoaxes succeed because they exploit powerful psychological processes. These processes are the very ones that have enabled humans to survive and create art and technology, but also transform Homo Sapiens into Homo Suckers!<br> <br> Benedict thinks Islam is violent and irrational. Islam appeared one century after Muhammad's death. The first century of the Arab conquest shows the conquerors holding not to Islam but to Hagarism. Hagarenes claimed descent from Abraham through his slave wife Hagar, similarly to the Jews who claimed descent from Abraham through Sarah. The Muhammad of Islamic tradition did not exist!<br> <br> Because religions claim divine favor for themselves, over and against other groups, this sense of righteousness leads to violence because conflicting claims to superiority, based on unverifiable appeals to God, cannot be adjudicated objectively. Religions do tremendous harm to society by using violence to promote their goals, in ways that are endorsed and exploited by their leaders. Abrahamic Religions are inherently violent because of an exclusivism that inevitably fosters violence against those that are considered outsiders. Abrahamic legacy is actually genocidal in nature.<br> <br> It was only in the eighth century, when the rulers of a now-vast Arabian empire felt the need for a unifying political theology, that they cobbled together the Islamic religion. The key figure in this enterprise was the brutal governor of Iraq, Hajjaj ibn Yusuf. That's why Islam is such a profoundly political religion with uniquely prominent incivil qualities. <br> <br> Benedict warns the devil uses human beings to spread evil in the world! In an appeal to the region he issued on Friday, Benedict calls for more Muslim-Christian dialogue and urges Christians not to leave the region where their faith was born.<br> <br> Stung by myriad charges of clergy sexual abuse, corruption, orgies, and coverup that reach the pope, patriarchs, and archbishops, churches face a crisis of empty pews and empty coffers. Churches need to address their own failures, acknowledge their own guilt, ask for forgiveness, and heal as a family. Apostates of Christianity outnumber converts by four-to-one. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> The Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), aka Vatican Bank, is a very corrupt bank involved in money laundering, braberies, and mafia business. President Gotti Tedeschi's abrupt firing from IOR came one day after Pope Benedict's butler, Paolo Gabriele, was arrested in the most clamorous chapter so far of Vatileaks scandal, in which sensitive documents have appeared in the media, including some related to the IOR's transparency bid. Vatileaks show a conflict among top Vatican officials over just how transparent the bank should be.<br> <br> JP Morgan closed the IOR's account, because IOR was involved in money laundering. Italy's financial police found a dossier compiled by Tedeschi concerning his nearly three years at the helm of IOR. Magistrates also questioned Tedeschi about a separate money-laundering investigation that began in 2010 when they froze 23 million euros the IOR held in an Italian bank. IOR does everything from helping rich Italians avoid taxes to laundering money for the Mafia and for people who want to pay bribes to Italian politicians.<br> <br> IOR's most infamous scandal involved the collapse 30 years ago of the Banco Ambrosiano, with money-laundering, mafiosi, and the mysterious death of Ambrosiano chairman Roberto Calvi, aka God's Banker. IOR held a stake in the Ambrosiano, and IOR was responsible for the Ambrosiano's fraudulent bankruptcy. IOR paid $250 million hush money to creditors. Calvi was hanged by the mafia under Blackfriars Bridge near London's financial district. Calvi's hanging still hangs like an albatross around the bank's neck. 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Putin points out that killing a person is a terrible crime, but in this case, we are talking about the killing of diplomats individuals who are protected by international conventions, whose lives and health are protected by international law. If somebody does not accept this, that means those people are not merely positioning themselves outside the law, but also outside modern civilisation.<br> <br> Eggheads say terrorism originates in the clash of cultures and foreign meddling. Ein volk, ein ummah, ein Muhammad! Promised with 72 virgins in heaven, martyrs have become the worst victims of Islam. But government is the #1 terrorist organization! Many governments terrorize their own people. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Putin notes that in recent years, Russians have had many differences in opinion with their American partners specifically on the ways of resolving problems in troubled countries. Russians share the principles of democracy and freedom, and agree that many regions throughout the world have numerous political regimes that do not follow these standards.<br> <br> International networks are used by terrorist groups to finance terrorist activity worldwide. Terrorists are supported by kleptocrats, rich Muslims, various charities, banks, drug trafficking networks, money-laundering schemes and bribed officials. The involvement of Hezbollah and al Qaeda in the drug trade is well known. It was bin Laden who managed the drug profits for the Taliban and arranged money-laundering operations with Russian mafias, such as Bratva and Brigada. Countries that fund or foster terrorism, include Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Indonesia, Libya, North Korea, and Malaysia. Many international aid organizations inadvertently support terror.<br> <br> Putin says the difference in approaches between Russians and their American partners lies however in the fact that Russians believe these types of problems should be resolved through difficult but nevertheless peaceful negotiations and lead to positive, long-term-oriented results, to ensure the positive development of those nations and the safe coexistence of all faiths, religious groups and ethnic groups in those countries. This is a difficult, painstaking process that requires patience and professionalism.<br> <br> Most kleptocrats are complicit in today's terrorism. The answer to terrorism is better intelligence, improved international cooperation, and limited use of Special Forces, drones, and other limited means. In fact, intervention and war make terrorism more likely. As Occident has expanded operations in Pakistan and Yemen and backed foreign African military forces in Somalia, those nations have become greater incubators of terrorism. Unfortunately, Occident creates terrorists faster than it can kill them! <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Putin points out Russians do not support any armed groups that attempt to resolve internal problems through force because Russians usually can not clearly understand the ultimate goals of those individuals and hence Russians always have a disturbing feeling that if such armed groups get support from abroad, the situation can end up in an absolute deadlock. Russians never know the end goals of these pseudofreedom fighters and Russians are concerned that the region could descend into chaos which, indeed, is what is already happening.<br> <br> Geoffrey Stone has always been skeptical of the notion of terrorism being a war without end. When you were in the middle of World War II, or the middle of the Civil War, you didn't know when it was going to end. You only knew when it was going to end after it was over. It's true this is not a conventional war where you can defeat the enemy in as neat a way as you could by capturing the Confederate Army, but Stone suspects the war on terrorism will end. <br> <br> Stone thinks the rhetoric of that is blown too much out of proportion on both sides among those who say we can't mess around here because it'll be a life-and-death struggle as far as the eye can see, and those who say that there won't be an end to this, so we have to be especially wary. Stone is much more closely aligned with the latter. If you believe it's an unlimited war, or at least a long war, then the message you should take from that is not that we should pull out all the stops do whatever you can to win this war, civil liberties be damned but that we should be especially cautious. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Putin draws the attention of the heads of new governments, the heads of the states that have undergone major changes, to the fact that they also must not forget about their personal responsibility for what is happening in their countries.<br> <br> Terrorism is a product of choices and perceptions. Politicians use fear for political purposes and spend vast sums of money on dubious security measures. We are terrorizing ourselves with a climate of fear-mongering that exacerbates the threat of terrorism. Terrorists get their name for a reason. Fear is their chief tactic. Political forces push policymakers to hype this fear, encouraging citizens to believe that terrorists are global super villains who can wreck society unless we submit to their demands. Policies based on this fantasy are self-defeating and bring needless war, wasted wealth, and less freedom. We should rely on our confidence rather than our fears. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Putin asserts we all must be extremely delicate and careful about religious feelings the religious feelings of followers of various faiths. This requirement applies to all people whether they are adepts of Islam, Christianity, or any other confessions, because if a state does not react swiftly and rigidly to provocations against religious feelings, then the offended, insulted and humiliated individuals will take it upon themselves to defend their views and interests, and at times, this takes on absolutely unacceptable forms and they may use unacceptable methods.<br> <br> Putin really expects this tragedy will motivate us all to intensify our joint struggle against extremism and terrorist threats. Ron Paul muses that sometimes it can be very uncomfortable to ask the right questions and face the truth. When a slick politician comes along and gives a much more soothing, self-congratulating version of events, it is very tempting to simply believe what we would like to hear. But listening to lies does not make us safer, even though it might make us feel better about ourselves. The truth is that ending these misguided wars and occupations will make us safer, more prosperous and freer.<br> <br> We definitely underestimate the ideological motivations for terrorists, what makes people blow themselves up. It's not politics. You have to know your enemy and yourself. Unfortunately with the war on terror we forgot who we are, but also we didn't know our enemy. Look at al-Qaida. They led us into a war longer than World War I and World War II. Not because they are such smart people, but because we did not understand our enemy. Instead, we applied waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques. We did exactly what al-Qaida wanted us to do. When you do this, what are you proving to the guy? You're proving that everything he thinks about you is right. 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He may be referring to the state run aerial application targeting adult mosquitoes and/or adult and/or larval (both ground and aerial) mosquito control efforts made by any 1 of the 9 districts in MA? Speaking only on behalf of Norfolk County Mosquito Control District, currently we use Duet to combat adult mosquitoes via truck mounted ULV applications. We provide the public with info/descriptions of all of products we use on our website (below). We're happy to answer any specific questions regarding the exact application he may be interested in finding out about. He can contact us directly or the state if his questions involve the state run aerial applications using Anvil. <br> <a href="http://www.norfolkcountymosquito.org/Products.htmlf">http://www.norfolkcountymosquito.org/Products.htmlf</a><br> Adult Mosquito Control<br> The adulticide currently used by the NCMCD is sumithrin (with prallethrin), under the trade name DuetTM (Label, MSDS). It is a synthetic pyrethroid which mimics pyrethrin (or pyrethrum), a naturally derived plant chemical from the chrysanthemum flower. Pyrethroids offer the distinct advantage over pyrethrin in that it is more stable in sunlight and the current generation is 50x as effective, meaning less material is needed to effectively control mosquitoes and disease.<br> Commonwealth of Massachusetts<br> State Reclamation and Mosquito Control Board site and contact information <a href="http://www.mass.gov/agr/mosquito/index.htm">http://www.mass.gov/agr/mosquito/index.htm</a><br> information on Anvil from NY State <a href="http://www.health.ny.gov/publications/2738/">http://www.health.ny.gov/publications/2738/</a><br> Each product undergoes very strict testing before it can be licensed for use. Non-target effects are part of this testing and we rely on these companies and procedures to offer us effective products that are very specific to our target species, the mosquito. We also visually inspect treatment areas to look for any visible issues. Again, feel free to have him contact us directly with specific questions and we will do our best to answer them for him or point him in the right direction.<br> <br> ________________________________<br> From: Jed Merrow <<a href="mailto:jmerrow%40mjinc.com">jmerrow@mjinc.com</a>><br> To: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 8:47 AM<br> Subject: [vernalpool] Mosquito spraying<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Hi all - Has anyone looked into what specifically is being sprayed to<br> combat West Nile Virus and EEE, and implications for amphibians or other<br> non-target species? 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Socialist MEP Martin Schulz, madam of the Eldorado of Prostitutes, bullshitted again about solidarity. Eurokleptocrats want to transform the confederation of EU to the federation of USE (United States of Europe), enslaving all Europeans to Brussels and spreading the cancer of socialism. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> MEPs, muppets of EP, gave mixed support to Commission President Barroso's stupid vision, broadly welcoming the need for a stronger EU but highlighting the need to better address social issues and commenting that his federation proposals needed more ambition. The main groups called for a strong EU budget to deliver investments and growth. Less EU was the solution stressed by libertarian groups.<br> <br> I consider the European Union null and void confederation, because Europeans did not vote for any constitutional treaty! Eurokleptocrats pulled off the biggest powergrab in history by imposing a camouflaged constitution, bypassing all nonos. The Nazi dream for Europe was finally fullfilled - ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuehrer - one people, one empire, one leader. <br> <br> Vaclav Klaus asserts the main problem of Fourth Reich is the European economic and social system that doesn't allow for a rapid economic growth. The European Soziale Marktwirtschaft prefers social policy based on income redistribution to productive work. It prefers free-time and long holidays to hard work. It prefers consumption to investments, debts to savings, security to risk-taking. <br> <br> All of it is part of a broader civilizational and cultural problem, deeply rooted in the European continent or in most of its countries. It can't be exterminated overnight, it can't be changed as a result of one or another EU summit, it can't be changed by painless cosmetic changes. It requires a deep systemic change, something structurally similar to the task East Europe had to accomplish at the fall of communism.<br> <br> Barroso kicked off the four-hour debate, focusing almost exclusively on the effects of the economic crisis and on democracy. He stressed that the time had come for Europe's countries to confront the fact that they could not deal individually with the problems they faced, before outlining his stupid vision for a deep economic union based on a stupid political union in the form of a federation of nation states. <br> <br> Most MEPs want an end to the practice of also meeting in the Tower of Babel in Strasbourg. Opponents of the two-city system want Brussels to be EP's sole venue, but Hollande resists. Although most working sessions take place in Brussels, Strasbourg currently hosts four full EP sessions each month under a concession granted to France in 1992. Travel between Brussels and Strasbourg for 750 MEPs and thousands of their staff, riding the infamous exclusive gravy train, costs half billion euros each year. There have been repeated campaigns to change the system, but this would require all Fourth Reich countries to approve the move. <br> <br> The implications of the crisis for the future of the EU and how it connects to citizens was a key issue raised by MEPs. MEP Ernst Strasser has been charged in Vienna with corruption. Strasser is one of many MEPs caught up in cash-for-laws scandals. Strasser was accused of bribe-taking after a 15-month investigation spanning five countries, in which Austrian authorities questioned 90 people, carried out house searches and examined various bank accounts. He could face up to 10 years in jail if found guilty. Olaf is still investigating Strasser.<br> <br> Strasser asked for a 100,000 euro annual kickback in exchange for influencing EU legislation in EP. The indictment was triggered by the Sunday Times investigation, in which two journalists posing as pullpeddlers met Strasser and other MEPs. Strasser and Slovenian MEP Zoran Thaler resigned after the revelations. A third, Romanian MEP Adrian Severin, was expelled from the centre-left Socialists and Democrats (S&D) bloc in the parliament, but remains an independent MEP.<br> <br> Barroso's stupid federation of nation states concept was criticized by both Libertarian group leader Guy Verhofstadt, and Green group leader Daniel Cohn-Bendit. "This federation already exists, it is the European Council. We need a union based on citizens", Mr Verhofstadt said. "A European public space must be the aim", added Mr Cohn-Bendit.<br> <br> Kleptocrats have transformed politics to trade. They are traders who use their power, access, and privileged information to generate wealth. And at the same time well-connected financiers and corporate leaders have made a business of politics. They come together to form a kleptocratic caste.<br> <br> EPP group leader Joseph Daul also emphasised the need to get through to individuals. "Our main task is to go out, explain and convince, even if though it will not be easy", he said. Kleptocracy has clearly figured out how to extract wealth from the rest of us based solely on their position and proximity to power. If you have a seat at the table, you are in for a feast. If you don't have a seat at the table, you are on the menu. Throw them all out!<br> <br> Barroso replied that the Commission was today proposing legislation for European political parties to help foster European democracy as a complement to national democracy. He added that it was time to have truly transnational political parties which would make the case for the EU and called for these parties each to propose a candidate for the post of the next European Commission President.<br> <br> Again sticking to the grass roots, MEPs also pressed upon Barroso the need to work on maintaining a social Europe, even in the face of the mounting crisis. "There is an alternative to cuts that must be based on investments", said S&D group leader Hannes Swoboda, stressing the need for a social pact and adding later in the debate that without a social Europe, the Socialist group could not support the Commission.<br> <br> "What people want is solidarity today. We have to deliver this before delving into the future. It is unacceptable that we are pushing a culture of punishment", said Gabriele Zimmer, leader of the United Left group. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> Barroso insisted that the reforms being undertaken were tough but necessary, conceding however that it was also critical to develop a European social dimension. One popular haunt of Eurokleptocrats, especially MEPs, is the Treviso Hotel on Place Stephanie in the expensive and trendy Ixelles area of Brussels. The love hotel bills itself as a venue for couples with room service and discretion assured in glamorous rooms rented out at 100 euros an hour.<br> <br> Anne De Schepper, the hotel's manager, points out the long lunch break is the preferred time of day for her clientele of Eurokleptocrats to commit adultery, courtesy of pullpeddlers. Eurokleptocrats are 80 per cent of Treviso Hotel's business, most of it paid by pullpeddlers. <br> <br> Unlike the traditional hotel industry, Treviso Hotel has not experienced the economic crisis thanks to Eurokleptocrats and pullpeddlers. Treviso Hotel is busiest at lunch time, followed by early evening in between the end of office hours and the time Eurokleptocrats need to get back to their spouses.<br> <br> MEPs are told to beware the charms of Mata Hari type sirens trading sex for Fourth Reich secrets and business. The European Commission circulates a memorandum warning that middle-aged MEPs are particularly susceptible to long legs and blonde hair!<br> <br> On the EU budget, a broad consensus emerged among MEPs and Barroso that this was the primary instrument for investment and growth. For this reason, MEPs insisted that sufficient resources be devoted to it, whereas Mr Barroso argued that the losers from a small EU budget would be the member states themselves.<br> <br> The EFD and ECR groups had critical words for Barroso. "All we see is the same tired approach - more instead of better Europe", ECR leader Martin Callanan said. Nigel Farage, heading the EFD group, lambasted Barroso's project as emerging, creeping Euro dictatorship. <br> <br> A Member of the European Parliament gets fifteen thousand euros per month. It is<br> very shocking that a large number of MEPs earn an average additional income of<br> ten thousand euros per month in all sorts of extra jobs, and God only knows of<br> their bribes. MEPs, muppets of EP, condone political corruption. European<br> Parliament (EP), aka Eldorado of Prostitutes, has mumbo jumbo sessions in its<br> babel tower, baring its socialist soul. 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In order to get a good accurate reading, i recommend taking a sample to a lab and having them run the ions. UMass will do that through a couple of their labs. We've directed folks to Dr. Chul Park's lab for both anions and cations.<br> <br> If you want to talk more about this, feel free to give a call at the UMass Water Resources Research Center.<br> <br> Beckie Finn<br> Water Projects Coordinator<br> WRRC<br> 413.545.5979<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone</p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:bekfinn@earthlink.net?subject=Re%3A%20does%20anyone%20in%20Mass%20have%20a%20protocol%20for%20Chlorine%20testing%3F" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:vernalpool@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20does%20anyone%20in%20Mass%20have%20a%20protocol%20for%20Chlorine%20testing%3F"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwc3M2aXR2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BG1zZ0lkAzQ2MTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzQ3NDcyMzgy?act=reply&messageNum=4618">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlanA1bHJuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0NzQ3MjM4Mg--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool/message/4617;_ylc=X3oDMTM0N290OHYzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BG1zZ0lkAzQ2MTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzQ3NDcyMzgyBHRwY0lkAzQ2MTc-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">2</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vernalpool;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYnFmaTFoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM0NzQ3MjM4Mg--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkY2dob3I5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM0NTQ3ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1OTA1NzE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzQ3NDcyMzgy" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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Fluorescent lamps contain highly toxic mercury, and LEDS contain toxic lead and arsenic. Under a perverse legislation, Fourth Reich is forcing its citizens to bring toxic waste into their homes and contaminate the environment. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> If a fluorescent lamp is broken, a very small amount of mercury can contaminate the surrounding environment. EPA recommends airing out the location of a fluorescent tube break and using wet paper towels to help pick up the broken glass and fine particles. Any glass and used towels should be disposed of in a sealed plastic bag. Vacuum cleaners can cause the particles to become airborne, and should not be used. But even if the bulbs are not broken, they end up in household garbage, leaving the mercury to ultimately seep into the soil and groundwater. <br> <br> Green investments and green jobs are stupid socialistic ideas that deviate resources from more profitable investments and more productive jobs. But now mandatory stupid energy-saving measures, including renovating public buildings, energy-saving schemes for utilities, and energy audits for all large firms, will be required by an EU stupid energy efficiency directive approved in plenary on Tuesday. <br> <br> Claude Turmes (Greens/EFA, LU) says: This essential legislation is not only crucial for achieving our energy security and climate goals; it will also give a real boost to the economy and create jobs. Crucially, it will reduce the sizeable and growing cost of our dependence on energy imports - 488 billion in 2011 or 3.9% of GDP - which is particularly stark in crisis-hit countries. <br> <br> Climate scare is the hottest hoax on Earth! Vaclav Klaus points out people tend to confuse environment protection with climate control. We have to take care of our rivers, lakes, seas, forests, and air. But humans cannot control the climate. Rabblerousers have been for a long time searching for a simple and sufficiently threatening catastrophe that could justify the implementation of kleptocratic ambitions. After having tried various alternative ideas, they came up with the idea of dangerous, man-made global warming. This concept was formulated despite the absence of reliable data. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> The stupid directive will require member states to renovate 3% of the total floor area of heated and cooled buildings owned and occupied by their central government. This will apply to buildings with a total useful floor area of more than 500 m², and as from July 2015, of more than 250 m². However, member states will also be able to use alternative means to achieve equivalent energy savings.<br> <br> A freakish commercial of Greenpeace shows an angry child accusing all adults of destroying his future with global warming! Thousands of drones benefit directly from the global warming scare, at the expense of the ordinary consumer. Environmental organizations globally, such as Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and the Environmental Defense Fund, have raked in billions of dollars. Government subsidies for useless mitigation schemes are skyrocketing. Emission trading programs are at two hundred billion euros a year level, with large fees paid to brokers, those who operate the scams, and kleptocrats. Many people have discovered they can benefit from climate scares and have formed an entrenched alliance with mafiosi and kleptocrats.<br> <br> Energy companies covered by the stupid directive will have to achieve a cumulative end-use energy savings target by 2020. This target will have to be at least equivalent to achieving new savings, each year, from 2014 to 2020, of 1.5% of annual energy sales to final customers, by volume, and averaged over the most recent three-year period before the directive takes effect. <br> <br> Socialists and radical environmentalists have been trying for decades to reshape communities to conform to their preferred pseudosmart-growth policies. These advocates work to impose land use regulations that would force citizens into denser living arrangements, curtail freedom of choice in housing, discriminate against lower-income citizens, and compel people to pay more for their houses and give up their cars in favor of subways, trolleys, buses, and bicycles. <a href="http://venitism.blogspot.com">http://venitism.blogspot.com</a><br> <br> These efforts - often described as New Urbanism, sustainable development, or open land preservation - have long been resisted by most members of the community due to their negative impact on economic growth, competitiveness, and the standard of living. Communities implementing pseudosmart-growth policies have significantly higher home prices, which precludes moderate-income households from homeownership. In turn, these high home prices have forced buyers to take on excessive levels of mortgage debt, which has contributed to default and foreclosure problems. <br> <br> All large enterprises will be required to undergo a stupid energy audit. These stupid audits will need to start within three years of the stupid directive's entry into force and should be carried out every four years by qualified and accredited experts. Small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) will be excluded from this stupid obligation.<br> <br> Special provisions for establishing financing facilities for energy efficiency measures will be included in the stupid directive. 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Hope you are all well.<br> Wish I could say the same self- sustainable state exists for a currently <br> perishing ecosystem,...<br> Meanwhile, forwarded, in the context of Anvil[R] sprayings by illusionists:<br> "<br> I found that there is a MA source for bugs for integrated pest management:<br> <a href="http://www.berkshirebiological.com/Beneficial-Insects.html">http://www.berkshirebiological.com/Beneficial-Insects.html</a><br> Wouldn't that be a dream if the public health departments used this <br> option first.<br> "<br> Peace,<br> Peter<br> <br> On 9/10/2012 2:20 PM, Karro Frost wrote:<br> ><br> > They sure are, and there sure is a dearth of them now in the <br> > Bridgewaters in MA. I have seen one meadowhawk over the past 2 weeks <br> > of work there and about a billion mosquitoes. I think there is a <br> > problem in the spraying personally.<br> ><br> > Karro<br> ><br> > From: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com> <br> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jane Berkshire <br> > Environmental Action Team<br> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:32 PM<br> > To: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > Subject: Re: [vernalpool] Mosquito spraying<br> ><br> > Aren't dragonflies really good predators of mosquitoes? I know, silly<br> > question.<br> ><br> > /Jane/<br> > --<br> > Jane Winn, Executive Director<br> > 413-442-6815 home/office, 413-230-7321 cell<br> > *BERKSHIRE ENVIRONMENTAL ACTION TEAM (BEAT)<br> > *BEAT, 27 Highland Ave, Pittsfield, MA 01201-2413*www.thebeatnews.org<br> > <<a href="http://www.thebeatnews.org">http://www.thebeatnews.org</a>>*/*Working with you to protect the<br> > environment for wildlife<br> > */You make our work possible *- **Please donate now!*<br> > <<a href="http://www.thebeatnews.org/SupportBeat/SupportBeat.html">http://www.thebeatnews.org/SupportBeat/SupportBeat.html</a>><br> ><br> > On 9/10/2012 7:36 AM, Karro Frost wrote:<br> > ><br> > > Anvil is the chemical sprayed here in eastern Massachusetts as well.<br> > > It is a broad spectrum insecticide that kills all adult insects<br> > > exposed to it, including mosquito predators like dragonflies. It is<br> > > not supposed to be sprayed on open water because it is toxic to fish.<br> > > Usually it is applied during evening hours to have the most impact on<br> > > mosquitoes and the least impact on insects such as bees that live in<br> > > hives.<br> > > Personal experience in the Bridgewater area this year, is that after<br> > > spraying and wiping out the dragonflies and damselflies, the<br> > > mosquitoes are thicker than I have ever seen them.<br> > ><br> > > Karro<br> > ><br> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > -----Original message-----<br> > > From: "Parisio, Frank" <<a href="mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov">fparisio@dep.nyc.gov</a> <br> > <mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><br> > > <mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov>><br> > > To: "<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>"<br> > > <<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>><br> > > Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 11:24:49 GMT+00:00<br> > > Subject: RE: [vernalpool] Mosquito spraying<br> > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > Jed,<br> > ><br> > > A synthetic pesticide called Anvil® was prayed in Central Park and the<br> > > Upper West side in NYC this past August. It was sprayed to combat<br> > > mosquitos that may carry West Nile. I am not sure exactly what<br> > > chemicals are in Anvil or what threat the pesticide would have on<br> > > amphibians or other fauna, but an internet search on the product may<br> > > produce something.<br> > ><br> > > Frank<br> > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > _____________________________________________________<br> > > Frank Parisio | Wetland Scientist | NYC Environmental Protection<br> > > Bureau of Water Supply, Ecological Research and Assessment<br> > > (O) 845-340-7848 | <a href="mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov">fparisio@dep.nyc.gov</a> <br> > <mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><br> > > <br> > <mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:fparisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:<a href="mailto:parisio%40dep.nyc.gov">parisio@dep.nyc.gov</a> <br> > <mailto:parisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:parisio%40dep.nyc.gov><br> > > <mailto:parisio%40dep.nyc.gov><mailto:parisio%40dep.nyc.gov>><br> > ><br> > > From: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > > <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > > [mailto:<a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > > <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com>]<br> > > On Behalf Of Jed Merrow<br> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:47 AM<br> > > To: <a href="mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com">vernalpool@yahoogroups.com</a> <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > > <br> > <mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vernalpool%40yahoogroups.com><br> > ><br> > > Subject: [vernalpool] Mosquito spraying<br> > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > Hi all - Has anyone looked into what specifically is being sprayed to<br> > > combat West Nile Virus and EEE, and implications for amphibians or other<br> > > non-target species? 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