Sunday, October 31, 2010

RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Just wanted to introduce myself :)

 

I would avoid trailers. Not sturdy, stable or energy efficient. The flat
roofs hold water/snow/litter.

In addition, several parishes we looked at are refusing to allow trailers.
Which I agree with. They are a blight and are tornado magnets. Follow the
maps of tornado alley, and look at all the trailer parks.

In addition, they are not stable in hurricanes, tornados (my aunt's
neighbor's was flipped off its bricks, yes, they are on bricks to hold them
up) and rock in storms. My aunt had one when she first moved to AL in the
late 70s. Our fist summer there the storms were so bad the trailer rocked
and almost fell off the posts. We started clearing land for the foundation
for a real, stable house to be built. It's survived 3 tornados I've been
there for and innumerable snow storms. Plus it's cheaper to heat!

Several parishes we looked at have rules that a trailer has be from a
certain year (i.e., nothing before 1995, etc.). Check the local codes and
covenants for property. You'd want something stable that'll last a
lifetime, a tin can is not that.

Case in point, Mum's was opened like a Spam can when Katrina hit her home.
My brother's house (1 acres IN FRONT of mum) only had room peeled back. Only
other damage was a few boards that were stuck in the siding. If it was a
trailer, it would have went through like a hot knife through butter. I'VE
put my hand through the walls of a trailer in a fight with a brother when I
was 13. Mum threw a pot at an animal trying to get in one night and made a
very large hole in her brand new, specially built 68K double-wide. I
wouldn't live in one if it was given to me.

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RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Just wanted to introduce myself :)

 

As for the air conditioner, consider looking into geothermal.

Teresa, Is that available in every place? In New Orleans, we use transom's,
ceiling fans and cathedral ceilings. Much cheaper and don't cost anything.

What places can you use geothermal. I wouldn't want to be reliant on online
business. Electricity goes out, your SOL. Same for thunderstorms and you
lose valuable time learning/practicing survival skills. You can find your
niche, like supplying local restaurants w/fresh herbs, etc; and have almost
no computer usage. I also wouldn't want in industry reliant on the whims of
consumers.

Everyone will need foodstuffs/products. Not everyone needs a computer.
Just my experience. I know several people at work who have never touched a
computer and quite a few are under 40!

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RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: Canning Pumpkin

 

Thanks!

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Subject: Re: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: Canning Pumpkin

Jackie Clay's book, "Growing and Canning Your Own Food" says on page 155...

"We used to can pureed pumpki and squash to use not only in pies but also in
casseroles. But now it is not recommended to do this as the puree is such a
dense product. The processing heat may not reach the center of the food,
thus making it unsafe. Instead, we now can pumpkin and squash in cubes. To
use in pies and casseroles, simply push the soft pieces through a sieve or
use a food mill and proceed with your recipe.

"Rinse off mature, hard-shelled pumpkin or squash. Remove seeds and strings,
scrape the inside. Cut into 1-inch slices, then cut the rind off. Cut into
1-inch cubes. Place in a large pot and cover with water. Boil 2 minutes to
heat thoroughly. Pack in jars, leaving 1 inch of headspace. Add 1/2 tsp.
salt to pint jars and 1 tsp. to quarts, if desired. Ladle boiling cooking
liquid over pieces, leaving 1 inch of headspace. Wipe rim of jar clean;
place hot, previously-simmered lid on jar, and screw down ring firmly tight.
Process pints for 55 minutes and quarts for 90 minutes at 10 pounds pressure
in a pressure canner."

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RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Just wanted to introduce myself :)

 

Build your cellar around your water well. That will provide extra protection
for your well as a side benefit.

Check local laws, it's not allowed in several places. I discovered that and
several places do not allow fuse boxes inside the home; but if they do it
must have some fireboard or stone around them.

Bottom line, you need to check local laws. We checked before we even looked
at land. I'm from New Orleans and my eldest was born in Lafayette. The
middle of Cajun country. I thought we had some archaic laws in Loser-ana;
but OH, WV and NC has some screwy laws in their parishes. And it's
different parish to parish! We just found out the parish we bought in is a
wet parish, but the surrounding parishes are dry. I'd have died!

Also if no well on property, do a quick call to local well drillers, they
can give you guesstimate's on how deep the well will have to be for water
and what the water pressure will be (called psi the higher the psi the
better à under 3 VERY BAD, 6-8 seems to be average, 10+ much better). You
also want to be sure after they drill they have a multi-coupling for
electric and manual usage. If power goes out, how will you get water?! You
may also look at a septic, if you don't throw fem products and chicken bones
or grease it'll last forever. My aunt has 3 boys and her septic are 2
55-gal drums grandpa homemade in the early 60's! If you're used to your
garbage disposable, change your ways now.

You may have one but not hook up sinks to them (there are alternatives).
You could have buckets of water next to loo for flushing. What was that
phrase from Meet the Fockers – If it's yellow, let if mellow; if it's brown,
flush it down. J

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RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Just wanted to introduce myself :)

 

Hey Tracy,

Avoid VA. Prices are exorbitant. I live outside of F'burg. Avoid the
eastern part of the state. It's worse than living in LA or Dallas or
Atlanta. We've looked in MO, OH, KY, TN, WV, VA, NC, MD & PA for land for
the last 8 months. VA and WV has horrendous taxes. For instance, my 2002
corolla costs me $68 twice a year to drive. Hubby's aunt lives outside of
Charleston, WV and they buy EVERYTHING in OH. Taxes are horrible. Their RV
isn't registered in WV because of taxes. WV also pays more in gas. When we
drove through 2 weeks ago the gas was up to 50 cents higher than VA or KY.

We just purchased some land in KY. I know a guy in OH with good prices, BUT
the land is straight up or straight down. Mostly purchased by deer hunters.
If you want that type of land, I've got a name & number. You can contact me
off line.

If you want a fixer upper and your budget is 70K, then you really want a
good 20% of that for repairs. Solar is expensive, but it's a long term
investment. I've owned two "fixer-uppers" and they require work, time and
MONEY. Plumbing could run 5K, electrical (by parish standards) could go
10K+, heating & cooling, etc. That doesn't include insulation, windows,
etc. What if you have a fireplace/wood stove. You will need to have it
cleaned and checked before you can use it.

I was shocked by the expense when I bought my first house. I would
recommend finding a Buyer's Agent, not a realtor. A Buyers Agent works for
the buyer. My 2nd home was bought w/one. He showed me cracks in the
outside brick which showed that part of the house was settling; when we went
inside he showed me the effects..2 baths on that side of house were slow to
drain. House was sinking and crushing the pipes which was causing water to
back-up. That would have cost thousands to repair! Plus some wiring issues
and roof damage in attic.

Point is, find someone you can trust and do your research. We have the
internet to help with neighborhoods, crime rates, income levels, etc. So
much more than I had back in the late 80s/mid-90s.

Look at sites with your head, when you visit the sites then look w/your
heart. We looked at dozens of places in so many states. We picked, wrote
our lists (this list helped, I still have them if you need them) and went to
look at land. 90% were do-able when we drove up, but never touched the
list. When we drove up to the KY property, we both felt 'this is it.' We
then saw it covered almost all our points. We just spent a week there (two
weeks ago) and found out by being 900' up it's VERY windy! J

Oh, one thing we did learn - make sure you have mineral rights. WV, parts
of OH/VA/PA don't allow it because of coal and natural gas. Even if you
don't have it on your land, they hold the rights and there is nothing you
can do to get them. Plus they have right of way.

It was quite eye-opening, enlightening to go land/house hunting here. Took
gleam and sheen off the strawberry glasses. BUT, we've found out ideal
spot, even has a few small caves on it! Now the fun part, starting to prep.
We live 8 hours away (that's pulling a pop-up!) so visits will be limited,
but we will start planting nut/fruit trees and digging the pond.

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[Homesteadingfamily] [a forum] Re: Sourdough

 

Hi there,

I agree that the first writer's instructions for a sourdough starter are
not going to produce anything like San Francisco sourdough. The second
writer (Linda) is correct but somehow this is not enough information for
most people who have not spent years in San Francisco's bakeries. I
have experimented with sourdough and have some suggestions for getting
your initial sourdough starter, started and getting a nice flavor much
like the SF sourdough has.

A successful sourdough starter is often many, many years old, perhaps
even as much as 100 or so. After this length of time, your starter will
likely be similar to the San Francisco culture, but of course each
culture will be somewhat unique due to the variations in climate, etc.
The trouble is really how to get a new or young culture to produce a
tasty bread similar to the old culture.

After doing extensive reading, I learned that such a starter culture as
the old San Francisco culture contains lactobacilli bacteria and in fact
that particular lactobacilli is named lactobacillus sanfranciscensis, a
particular variant of this lactic acid producing bacteria culture. So
when we leave the flour and water mixture out, open to the air, we're
hoping to catch both a suitable wild yeast that is active enough for
levening and also tastes good as well as a lactobacillus that has
similar taste qualities to the SF strain.

We _might_ get lucky but there are possibly several things working
against most people. Perhaps it's November in northern climates and
there just are no yeast spores floating around in the open air, due to
the cool, dry air in heated homes. San Francisco is surrounded by salt
water, it's a mild climate, and every day at 2:30 pm the wind shifts and
the fog rolls in. You can set your watch by it. It has it's own unique
micro climate and your home is probably not much like it.

So really I find the best thing you can do is to do this step when the
air in your home is moist and warm (in the spring). Once your fledgling
starter culture starts to bubble, then you've caught a wild yeast but
that's not the end. You need a lactobacillus bacteria as well. Where
can you get one that has a great flavor? Well, yogurt has it. So
cheat. Take a spoonful of your favorite plain yogurt and add it so as
to innoculate your starter with this culture.

Now, you've got the essential culture components but what you still
don't have is the proper acidity so that only the correct yeast and
lactobacillus grows and not bad things like mold for example. How can
you get the acidity? Add vinegar. I like to go to a store that sells
organic products and buy a cider vinegar that has a mother in the
bottom. I shake this vinegar up and put a spoonful into the young
starter to give it the right acidity and also it adds a little of the
mother and that helps the starter culture.

Lastly, maybe a slight shake of salt into your starter but not much.
Now, it's bubbling and it also has all the right stuff in it to produce
a nice flavored bread.

From here, you can follow other people's recommendations on how to
remove half your starter after 2 weeks in the refrigerator and replace
it with water and flour. I prefer flour that doesn't have additives
such as unbleached flour.

Alternately, you can do like I do. I leave my starer in a loosely
covered jar on top of the refrigerator or on a high shelf to stay nice
and warm. Every day, I add a spoonful of flour and if it needs it, I
also add water. This should be like a batter. When I get too much
starter, I use a cookie sheet and some baking rings to make English
muffins from 100% starter. They are really wonderful, ... nice and
sour. Just add your spoonful of flour to feed it before using it for
the muffins. Then put your baking rings on a cookie sheet and fill them
half full with this starter. Let it rise until it's full, level with
the top (doubled in bulk). Then bake at 400F until done.

With your culture fed every day, it will be very active and will make a
nice bread pretty fairly quickly. Still, sourdough takes time to
develop the flavor and it's also slower to leaven than regular
commercial yeast. My favorite way to make bread with this is to use a
standard bread machine set to "dough." It generally takes two cycles to
get the dough active enough and having a nice flavor. Sometimes if my
starter culture has been refrigerated, I sometimes have to run it
through 3 cycles. So make a dough with one cycle and when it's done,
just reset it for another dough cycle and let it run again.

Then once your sponge (dough rising in a bowl) becomes very active, then
you can make any loaves you like. Shape the loaves, let it rise in a
warm spot, then bake it. If you like the SF sourdough style crusty
bread, you can follow the instructions given by the previous writers for
the pan of water, etc. Some folks instead just take a mister filled
with water and open the oven door occasionally and give it a mist. By
varying this amount and frequency, you can make it have the crust you
like. Practice makes perfect. I personally don't like crispy crusts
like this but to each his own.

Some people bake bread in a basket or slash the dough on top. This is
all part of the bread maker's art. Crusts too. I just prefer a nice
flavor with a chewy crust, but that's me.

Good luck. I hope this is clear but you can write to me off-list if I
don't see your queries on list.

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--- In another forum, "Lynda" wrote:
>
> This won't make a sourdough starter. This is a biga. The way Italians
> generally start their bread. the recipe that follows is also an Italian
> bread recipe.
>
> A true San Francisco sourdough starter is unbleached flour and water and it
> is set out for days to gather yeast from the air. Generally a crock is
> used.
>
> The bread itself is flour, water, starter and salt. That's it.
>
> To get a good crust, preheat your oven to 450. put a pan under the rack you
> are going to bake your bread on. When you put the loaf in the oven (on a
> cookie sheet), dump 4 or 5 ice cubes in the tray. Turn the oven down to 425
> for about 15-20 minutes. Then turn the oven down to 400 and continue to
> bake (the time will depend on your location, type of flour, and where you
> are from sea level). A real sourdough bread can take up to 60 minutes to
> bake.
>
> I was born in San Francisco. Grew up around the city and had the good
> fortune to have spent a lot of time in the kitchens of some of the great
> restaurants in the city.
>
> Lynda

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bina...."
>
>
> > Sourdough Starter
> > 1 pkg of yeast
> > 1 Tbsp sugar
> > 2 cups of warm water divided
> > 2 cups of flour
> > Disolve sugar and yeast into 1/2 cup of water. Stir the remaining water
> > and flour. Add yeast mixture and mix thouroughly. Let stand overnight in
> > a warm place.
> > To replenish add equal parts of water and flour to the starter. So if you
> > use a cup of starter you put in a cup of replenishments.
> > Keep in fridge.
> >
> >
> > San Fransico Sour Dough Bread
> >
> > Mix 1 cup of starter and flour, and let rise overnight in a warm spot.
> > About 85 degrees is perfect.
> > Add 1 cup of warm milk and stir a little then add 1 Tbsp of sugar and 1
> > tsp of salt. Add flour 1/2 cup at a time to form a managable dough.
> > Knead 10 to `15 minutes until silky and smooth. Let rise in a greased
> > bowl about 6-8 hours till at least double. Punch down and shape into a
> > french loaf for a finer bread rise twice in the bowl before shaping.
> > Let loaf rise, slash the top, brush with egg wash . Bake at 400 degrees
> > for 25 minutes. Bread is done when it thumps hollow.
> > Placing a pan of salted water on the bottom rack to give a more chewy
> > crust.
> >
> > No more buying yeast.
> > Cheers
> > Bina

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[Homesteadingfamily] Re: Just wanted to introduce myself :)

 

Hi HorsesSoul,

I am on a similar journey ... only running a year or two behind you. I won't be debt free for 22 months.

I'd enjoy hearing of your progress and what you learn along the way.

Good Luck!

--- In Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com, "TraceyD" <horsessoul@...> wrote:
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> Hi. Thank you for letting me join this group. I can't wait to start learning! I hope to move within a year or so(it can never be too soon!). I've been looking in VA, TN, WV, CO. I really want to live where I have a beautiful view of the mountains from my porch. I'd love to have at least 10 acres with nice grass so I can have a horse or two. I want chickens for the eggs-and also to watch them "talk" and scratch and dust bathe. I would like a cow for milk or perhaps a goat for milk instead since I hear they are good for eating weeds and leaves. I would love a donkey for herd protection and they are so cute. Guinea hens to eat the ticks. I would get another dog or two. I love animals can you tell? I'd love to try homemade bacon but I could never bring myself to butcher. I've honestly sat back and seriously thought about it and it's not something I could do. It's a shame though because I love summer sausage from deer. OMG that's delicious! I love to go to yard sales and the like to find things that might be useful to me in my future farm. I've gotten a few cast iron pieces of cookware because I would love a cookstove and a large fireplace. I want solar panels so I can greatly reduce the electricity I need. Can panels provide enough energy to run a room air conditioner on really hot days? I can't stand too much heat. Anyway if I could live totally off grid that would be fabulous, but it might have to be a gradual change. If I could truly have my hearts desire I would have a very nice guy to help and share my dream. I plan to have a small orchard, grow and preserve my own fruit/produce. Oh that makes my heart feel so...."home" to think of it. I've always knew this is something I wanted in my heart but you know I never realized there were so many out there with this dream-or God love em already living this dream! I hope to learn about what I can do from my farmette to make money because I really don't want to continue working outside if possible. Perhaps selling eggs, having a little produce stand? However being single, I only make enough to afford a very cheap place. Retail is not paying much but currently I work mostly full time. By very cheap I mean probably 70,000 tops. I would gladly just get the land and a fixer upper but I don't know how to fix houses. But I would love to learn! I want to build a run-in shed for the animals. Basically I would love to learn everything you guys are willing to share and teach. Thank you! I hope to make some friends here and perhaps we will someday be neighbors. Also if anyone has ideas of really safe areas to move near the mountains would be-where I could feel safe leaving my windows open at night. I can never have enough fresh air. Take care.
>
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[vernalpool] Pond ecology resource

 

Hello,
Could anyone recommend a good resource that could guide me doing a natural resource inventory of a small pond and associated wetlands in Western Massachusetts?
I am a graduate student and familiar with basic limnology and field methods, but I need some help with sampling techniques, macroinvertebrate and wetland plant ID.
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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: Canning Pumpkin

 

Jackie Clay's book, "Growing and Canning Your Own Food" says on page 155...

"We used to can pureed pumpki and squash to use not only in pies but also in casseroles. But now it is not recommended to do this as the puree is such a dense product. The processing heat may not reach the center of the food, thus making it unsafe. Instead, we now can pumpkin and squash in cubes. To use in pies and casseroles, simply push the soft pieces through a sieve or use a food mill and proceed with your recipe.

"Rinse off mature, hard-shelled pumpkin or squash. Remove seeds and strings, scrape the inside. Cut into 1-inch slices, then cut the rind off. Cut into 1-inch cubes. Place in a large pot and cover with water. Boil 2 minutes to heat thoroughly. Pack in jars, leaving 1 inch of headspace. Add 1/2 tsp. salt to pint jars and 1 tsp. to quarts, if desired. Ladle boiling cooking liquid over pieces, leaving 1 inch of headspace. Wipe rim of jar clean; place hot, previously-simmered lid on jar, and screw down ring firmly tight. Process pints for 55 minutes and quarts for 90 minutes at 10 pounds pressure in a pressure canner."

HTH

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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] Just wanted to introduce myself :)

> Consider a used mobile home for your house. It is usually much
> less expensive than a *real house.*

I will second this. It is what we did last year when I moved back to
our family farm here in Texas. We were able to get a nicely
refurbished used 1800 sf four bedroom double-wide for $38,000 delivered. We will
probably build a house is a few years and convert to double-wide into
a farm office and/or housing for interns or hired help.

Cheers,
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