Thursday, June 30, 2011

Re: [Homesteadingfamily] ~A question on things that changed your life~

 

The Waltons was one of my favorite shows growing up. I use to think it was
because John Boy was a writer and I always wanted to be a writer. I also loved
the fact that they had so many children and I wanted a bunch of children. But
now looking back I think it was because they struggled through rough times, but
did it TOGETHER. Their lives were slower paced and focused on activities that
contributed to survival first and foremost.

My second favorite program was Little House on the Prairie for all the same
reasons (except wanting a house full of kids. lol). They also had to struggle
to supply their basic needs, but found joy in such simply experiences that their
lives were happy.

I no longer watch much tv but I will admit that when I sit down to unwind and
turn it on now, I often click through channels looking for SOMETHING worth
watching and often will still stop on these two shows and revisit. My dh would
probably say it is the sentimentality of the shows that grabs my soft heart, but
I would argue that it is the simplicity and earthiness that draws me back to
their era.

Margie
Texas
http://gardengateserenityfarm.wordpress.com/
http://mosaicmudpies.blogspot.com/

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From: MotherLodeBeth CA <MotherLodeBeth@aol.com>
To: Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 8:41:08 PM
Subject: [Homesteadingfamily] ~A question on things that changed your life~

Was watching an old episode of The Waltons where John Boy works and buys his Mom
their first wringer washer and it reminded me of how much I love using a wringer
washer and how we tend to be more careful with our clothes, like wearing an
apron when working in the kitchen, cleaning or even in the vegetable garden. And
then at the end of the show Earl Hammer did the voice over and noted that even
during hard times when they thought they might be poor that in time they
realized what great memories they had created and just how rich they really
were, per the Great Depression and WW2.

My parents spoke the same way of those times, and in looking back I see where
the BEST memories seem to be when we have had to work harder for something.

So I am curious what movies or tv shows have changed your life for the better,
be it making you want to learn how to do something old fashioned that has proven
to be something you now do, or changed how you view life and the path you are
on.

~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~

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[Homesteadingfamily] ~A question on things that changed your life~

 



Was watching an old episode of The Waltons where John Boy works and buys his Mom their first wringer washer and it reminded me of how much I love using a wringer washer and how we tend to be more careful with our clothes, like wearing an apron when working in the kitchen, cleaning or even in the vegetable garden. And then at the end of the show Earl Hammer did the voice over and noted that even during hard times when they thought they might be poor that in time they realized what great memories they had created and just how rich they really were, per the Great Depression and WW2.

My parents spoke the same way of those times, and in looking back I see where the BEST memories seem to be when we have had to work harder for something.

So I am curious what movies or tv shows have changed your life for the better, be it making you want to learn how to do something old fashioned that has proven to be something you now do, or changed how you view life and the path you are on.

~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~

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[ASGG] TAKEN: Paper Towel Dispensers

 

Finally gone!

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Wednesday, June 29, 2011

[ASGG] RE-OFFER: Commercial Paper Towel and Toilet paper dispensers

 

Six of each, used but in good condition. I've had three no-shows already, someone please come and get them near Altamonte Mall.

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[Homesteadingfamily] Re: No car, no job, etc.

 

Neither did I, and Ninja, I'm glad you killed the topic! "Lisa" may not
be afraid, but some of us simply don't want to be bothered with dozens
of spam emails or phone calls...

It is my understanding that a member here posted a bunch of emails from
other Lists. As a moderator on two of those Lists, I have to say: that
is a strict no-no! Hope I'm not getting off on the wrong foot here, but
I had to mention that...

Joyce in SE Ohio

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wrote:
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> I don't like the feel of where this topic is going. First I thought
maybe people would offer some interesting suggestions, but that is not
where it is going.
> SO, THIS TOPIC IS ENDED AS OF NOW. NO MORE MESSAGES ON THIS TOPIC
WILL BE POSTED.
> Regards, Ninja ( moderator )
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[Homesteadingfamily] No car, no job, etc.

 

I don't like the feel of where this topic is going. First I thought maybe people would offer some interesting suggestions, but that is not where it is going.
SO, THIS TOPIC IS ENDED AS OF NOW. NO MORE MESSAGES ON THIS TOPIC WILL BE POSTED.
Regards, Ninja ( moderator )

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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

I guess so, just to trusting I guess. I'm really not afraid, Lisa

On 6/28/11, MotherLodeBeth CA <MotherLodeBeth@aol.com> wrote:
> FOR GODS SAKE dont give out phone numbers!! Are you nuts????
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> ~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~
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[kitchencabinetforum] BLASPHEMY LAWS ARE SILLY AND DANGEROUS

 

Index on Censorship points out another person has been sentenced to death in Pakistan for blasphemy, renewing the debate over the country's laws. Twenty-nine-year old Abdul Sattar was sentenced to death on 21 June. Blasphemy violates no one's rights. To cave in to intimidation and not publish anything religuous freaks feel is offensive is to surrender the crucial principle of free speech. http://venitism.blogspot.com

This clash is about respecting man's right to express his views, however unpopular, in the face of religious attempts to subordinate that right to mystical dogmas. Instead of appeasing the mobs who call for executing anyone offending their faith, the West must support those who share its political ideal of free speech.

Religions, scams, and hoaxes succeed because they exploit powerful psychological processes. These processes are the very ones that have enabled humans to survive and create art and technology, but also trasform Homo Sapiens into Homo Suckers!

Khalid Khattak notes the blasphemy issue gained international and national media attention last November when Asia Bibi became the first woman in Pakistan sentenced to death for blasphemy. The verdict attracted condemnation from human rights campaigners and from Pakistan's Christian minority. http://venitism.blogspot.com

Then, earlier this year, Governor of Pakistan's province Punjab Salmaan Taseer and Federal Minister for Minorities Shahbaz Bhatti were assassinated, in separate incidents. They both supported Asia Bibi and made efforts to secure her release.

Khattak points out these are not isolated incidents: over the years, many people have been killed and received threats over charges of blasphemy and for siding with those charged with blasphemy in Pakistan. There is a level of threat attached even when opposing false blasphemy charges.

Blasphemy is publishing or uttering matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion. It's scary to think that a progressive state would drag out antiquated laws to suppress freedom of speech. Sometimes you have to shake your head and wonder how in this day an age a law that supports prosecuting detractors of a two millennia old fairy tale is allowed to be on the books.

Blasphemy is a serious crime in Pakistan and the maximum punishment is death or life imprisonment. Section 295 of the Pakistan Penal Code (Act XLV of 1860) is related to blasphemy. However it is sub-section C of Section 295, introduced in 1986, which is one of the hottest points of debate both inside and outside Pakistan — until 1986 maximum punishment for the crime was limited to imprisonment for ten years. http://venitism.blogspot.com

The Section 295-C stipulates: "Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine."

Blasphemy laws are silly and dangerous. It is silly because medieval religious laws have no place in a modern secular republic, where the criminal law should protect people and not ideas. And it is dangerous because it incentivises religious outrage, and because Islamic States are already using the wording of blasphemy laws to promote new blasphemy laws at UN level. Blasphemy laws are unjust, because they silence people in order to protect ideas. In a civilised society, people have a right to express and to hear ideas about religion even if other people find those ideas to be outrageous. http://venitism.blogspot.com

Not a single person sentenced to death for blasphemy by Pakistani courts has ever been executed, but over the years the number of those killed while on blasphemy charges has risen. Who can forget the killing of two Christian brothers who were accused of committing blasphemy? They were killed outside a Pakistani court in July 2010.

According to one report, 801 of the 1,031 people imprisoned under blasphemy laws in Pakistan are Muslim. The report also claims that a number of blasphemy cases are registered to implicate innocent people "out of personal vendetta."

Secular society is rejected by religulous freaks. They demand a special position, insisting on special consideration of their religulous feelings. But this is incompatible with freedom of speech, where one must be ready to put up with insults, mockery, and ridicule. Journalists should treat religulous freaks the same way they treat atheists, cultists, spiritualists, spirituals, politicians, philosophers, scientists, artists, and businessmen, integrating them into the Graecoroman tradition of criticism and satire, because they are part of society, not strangers. Blasphemy is including, rather than excluding, religulous freaks.

Index, Global Tax Revolt, andhHuman rights groups call for repeal of blasphemy laws and protest against their abuse. But those supporting blasphemy laws ask why human rights campaigners do not raise the misuse of Section 302 of the Pakistan Penal Code under which many innocent people are also implicated — for murder.

Geert Wilders points out Koran is the Islamic Mein Kampf that incites Muslims to resort to violence. Koran calls for hatred, misogyny, polygyny, violence, submission, murder, and terrorism. Koran calls for Muslims to kill infidels, to terrorize infidels, and to fulfil their duty to wage war, the violent jihad. Jihad is a duty for every Muslim, Islam is to rule the world by the sword. Koran is clearly antisemitic, describing Jews as monkeys and pigs.

Khattak notes serious efforts have been made to amend blasphemy laws: the PPP's Sherry Rehman, a member of the National Assembly, had submitted a bill in the assembly seeking elimination of death penalty from Section 295-C, for example.

But the parliamentarian has now withdrawn the bill, while Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has also made it clear that "the government would not support any move to amend the law".

The idea of a separation of Mosque and State is unheard of in Islam. Islam has a doctrine of warfare, Jihad, which is fought in order to establish Sharia Law, which is, by nature, totalitarian. Sharia Law calls for, among other freakish things, the dehumanization of women, the flogging/stoning/killing of adulterers, and the killing of homosexuals, apostates, and critics of Islam.

All of this is part of orthodox Islam, not some extremist form of it. If jihadists were actually perverting a great religion, Muslims would have been able to discredit them on Islamic grounds and they would have done so by now. The reason they can't is because jihadists are acting according to Koran: When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads until you have made a great slaughter among them. Ch. 47:4

Following the assassination of Salmaan Taseer and Federal Minister for Minorities Shahbaz Bhatti, Pakistani government officials and elected representatives are now very cautious in their statements about blasphemy law, fearing mounting resentment from religious groups. http://venitism.blogspot.com

Wilders declares Islam is not a religion, but a satanic terrorist cacoculture. Sure, it has a grudge-collecting God, and an afterlife with 72 virgins for each martyr. But in its essence, Islam is a totalitarian ideology and sadomasochism. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means submission. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is the incivility of terrorist jihad and sharia.

The recent public demonstrations in support of the country's blasphemy laws expose how strong members of the public, especially of those associated with different religious parties of the country, are in favour of these laws.

Islam and Nazism share fundamental ideological tenets and premises. It is no coincidence that Islam is compatible with Nazism. Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem agreed wholeheartedly on that point. That agreement was not confined exclusively to their mutual hatred of Jews. The Grand Mufti envied Hitler for the whole of his ideology and for having brought it to fruition.

While it often feels as if campaign against abuse of blasphemy laws has almost vanished in Pakistan, it has not and a recent report demands authorities bridge legal procedural flaws or repeal the laws. http://venitism.blogspot.com

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Tuesday, June 28, 2011

Re: [Homesteadingfamily] No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

At 07:59 PM 6/28/2011, MotherLodeBeth CA wrote:
>FOR GODS SAKE dont give out phone numbers!! Are you nuts????
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>~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lisa McClelland
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>Hello, I live in north AL, I am thinking of moving over to GA
>mountains, where do you live? Would like to get in touch maybe we can
>help somehow, Lisa [phone number snipped]
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Why in the devil did you repeat the phone number?

David

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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

FOR GODS SAKE dont give out phone numbers!! Are you nuts????

~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa McClelland

Hello, I live in north AL, I am thinking of moving over to GA
mountains, where do you live? Would like to get in touch maybe we can
help somehow, Lisa 256-840-0737

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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

Hello, I live in north AL, I am thinking of moving over to GA
mountains, where do you live? Would like to get in touch maybe we can
help somehow, Lisa 256-840-0737

On 6/28/11, georgiamountainwoman <gamountainwoman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone
> How does one live without all the above ?
> I'm fixin' to find out.
> If you are already experiencing this,
> or know of somebody already in this situation,
> please let me know what you,
> or they,
> are doing to survive.
>
> I'm a single white 52 year old female from the North Georgia Mountains.
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Re: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: butchered rabbits

 

The rabbits I was talking at are sold at the butcher shop west of Jackson CA, which is the next county west of us in Calaveras Co.

~:MotherLodeBeth CA Sierras ~Who was born in the wrong era~

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[Homesteadingfamily] Re: No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

If I knew the answer to this one I would retire today ... Good Luck!

Please let me know what you learn ... I'd love to retire today with a car
and a little money. I don't want the job, power, or phone.

Donald Broussard (get me off the grid)

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[vernalpool] Wood frogs

 

Hello,
I have a bunch of tiny wood frogs in a stock tank in my back yard that I rescued as eggs from a rut in the road and now appear to be fully developed. I assume they are ready to move into the woods, but I worry they will not do so on their own because they are adapted to climbing out of a pool in the ground, rather than across the log bridge I have made that leads out of the tank and into the weeds nearby. Should I take them out myself, and if so would the cover of night be better? We have carefully tended this brood and would love for some of them to survive in the wild woods. Any advice is appreciated.
~Douglas

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RE: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: butchered rabbits

 


good to know as I'm going to be looking further into the "rabbit" question...thanks Farmerswife

Wendy Chartrand...WAGON CREEK FARM...Box 120, Oak Point, Mb., R0C 2J0 Canada
To: Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com
From: cshopp@marykay.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:03:18 +0000
Subject: [Homesteadingfamily] Re: butchered rabbits

Here in Sonora, CA (rural Sierra Nevada area) they run $8/lb for rabbit meat- we personally have a couple New Zealand Reds (meat rabbit). From what I understand in general New Zealands, Californians and Silver Foxes are considered the best meat breeds (fast time to reach butchering weight and good amount of meat for size). Flemish Giants take much longer to reach butchering weight (more you have to feed them) and they aren't considered a good meat rabbit for a couple reasons. That being said- obviously they are made of meat and can be eaten if desired. :)

Chara

--- In Homesteadingfamily@yahoogroups.com, DeGier Family Farms <degierfarms@...> wrote:

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> Hi Jeff,

>

> What type of rabbits and how old were they at butchering? We have been

> interested in getting into rabbits. We have layers, broilers, turkeys,

> goats and bees at the moment. Just butchered this batch of broilers

> saturday.

>

> Thanks,

> Jeff & Jill

> Delta, OH

>

>

> On 6/26/2011 5:00 PM, jeff wrote:

> >

> > looking to do some trading just put some butchered rabbit in the

> > freezer. I live east of Mooresville Indiana. Let me know

> >

> > jeff

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[Homesteadingfamily] No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone

 

No car, No job, No money, No insurance, No power, No phone
How does one live without all the above ?
I'm fixin' to find out.
If you are already experiencing this,
or know of somebody already in this situation,
please let me know what you,
or they,
are doing to survive.

I'm a single white 52 year old female from the North Georgia Mountains.

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